| Migrating to AVR | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 8051-replacement | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yep, I agree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Toolchain | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| free compilers | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| GCC | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Free ARM compilers | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "Free" vs "Free" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| faster '51 derivatives in DIL/PLCC & availability | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Tired of hanging around with 5 mips | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Re: Tired of hanging around with 5 Mips | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| experiences prototyping with smd's | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Prototype SMD | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Nice, but where to buy and how much? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Re: where to buy and how much? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yeah, but.... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I agree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| re the XA | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| How many 51' compilers make use of the 51's dual DPTR | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You must live on a very interesting corner! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Ha,ha, AVR are ubiquitus | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| HUH?? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I think | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 'F120 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "bunchload" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| re: bunchload | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Youse guys in Old Blightly | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Prototyping SMD's | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Hand-made PCBs with hand-soldered SMDs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| SMD's | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Well, that's nice, but not necessary. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| a very general - and accurate - comment ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| apprehension | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| nearby | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 'jumping' from the '51 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| AVR update | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the chip does not crash | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Lockup etc | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| increase the clock until lockup | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| undefined behaviour | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| NO, they do not recommend it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| simultaneous posts | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Overclocking | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| This is simply an error in judgment | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| all bets are off | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| overclocking | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yeah, okay | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Neeed for speeed | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Because of this... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Missing the point | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| missing the point? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Modern derivatives | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| hogwash | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I'm not sure you're on track here ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Hi Richard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the problem with AVR's is that they're ATMEL only | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's one general and one personal problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yes, that's what it is ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Second source not so important anymore | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's not as convenient now as it once was | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Free tools only have investment in knowledge | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| again. Per | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not at all | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it's not just the tools | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "Best code" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| There are too many definitions of "best" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Don't go for best | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| yes and no | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Single-source chips vs single-source architecture | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| cross purposes | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| DSP PROCS | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| gp ahead, stay behind the curve | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Got to disagree there,... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I do not consider 'luck' a design parameter | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Flying leads | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| re: DSP PROCS | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 100MHz 32-bit ARM | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The Trap... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| talking out of both sides of the mouth | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "on the DSP level" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Often hand-optimized assembler available | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Misunderstood me | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Cross talk | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What kind | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| nobody has suggested | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| no, you are not | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| there are '51s with MACs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| and... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| yes and | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| He wants Plastic Dips | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| very few and | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the 33 mips DS89C450 is in DIP if you want | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| no such thing as "Best" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| '51 weaknesses outweigh the AVR | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| similiar | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Quite so | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 3, 4, 5 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Horses for courses | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Have you considered using a DSP? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I'll be off too, but not to AVR | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| A Guess | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Low volume | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
