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02/13/07 14:58
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 		 #132769 - such as this
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:

Were I to use some such stuff and willing "to contribute" i would REALLY like to know how I could "contribute"...


Documentation, bug reports, suggestions or requests, some developers accept financial support, etc...

...and still maintain full speed doing what I am paid for.


What do you do in your spare time? Is it more important than improving a F/OSS application? (Rhetorical question--I'm pretty sure I know how you would answer that. Others would answer differently.)


A scenario: I switch from Keil (where I can demand support because I pay for it)...


You can demand anything, or even politely request it. Doesn't mean you'll get it. I'm sure you've heard the same or similar complaints about paid support as I have. Note re F/OSS developers: 'tis far better to politely request than demand.

to SDCC where after finding a bug I have two options: a) wait for someone, that has no obligation to me whatsoever, to fix it...


Obligation no, desire usually yes. Do the research yourself--F/OSS applications usually get bugs fixed in far less time than proprietary apps. Especially security bugs.

...or b) spend two months getting familiar with the SDCC code and fix it myself some choice.


That's always an option. It's usually not necessary, but submitting (good) patches is greatly appreciated by the application maintainers. Look up the definition of "bludger".



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                                          Dignity means different things to different people            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Jeff ...You're right but You forgot something ...            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                                                     are you sure it's Spanish....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        the written language is Spanish            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                                                        The discrimination ...            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                                                              True            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                                                        I am sticking with my old system            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                                                  it is easy to learn a language            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      we get more polite :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I disagree, Rob            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             arbeit macht frei            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                You\'re right, in a sense...            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                    Offices vs cubes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    When coding            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                          180            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             It keeps the riff-raff out            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That metric...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I worked once at a very "enlightened" company and            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, but I'm an old man ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   How to upgrade            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wait a little :)            01/01/70 00:00      
   is it?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Jumping the shark            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vista            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ref - Happy Days            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ahh            01/01/70 00:00      
         should it be \"Hasta la Vista\"?            01/01/70 00:00      
   a word to the Vista            01/01/70 00:00      
      Subtle humor?            01/01/70 00:00      
         No joke. It's an automatic forward            01/01/70 00:00      
            Unintended joke perhaps            01/01/70 00:00      
               it'll never stop 'till YOU stop buying Micro$oft            01/01/70 00:00      
                  wrong point            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Is it?            01/01/70 00:00      
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                        Device programmers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Device programmers            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    at least the LINUX stuff is tested ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Irony Strikes Again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I\'m going blind, I guess ...            01/01/70 00:00      
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                                    In the last year?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Decent WIndows Accounting            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    oh no, not again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It doesn't stop the complainers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Maybe...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          bug reports            01/01/70 00:00      
                              whoi on earth has time for that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
   such as            01/01/70 00:00      
      such as this            01/01/70 00:00      
         get a life            01/01/70 00:00      
            No need to reply            01/01/70 00:00      
               religious fanatism seems to permeate the            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It\'s FANATICISM, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
      or as            01/01/70 00:00      
         how would that fix a compiler bug?            01/01/70 00:00      
            If someone complains ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I wish them the very best            01/01/70 00:00      
            Define violence            01/01/70 00:00      
               OK, I'll define            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ok...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Hit the nail on the head            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Open-source products are generated for cause            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Please...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           On deaf ears            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Commercial software            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If I make a product that behaves exatly like my co            01/01/70 00:00      
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                           Spades aren't diamonds, and there's nothing free            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Monopoly ideas behind patents and copyrights.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              IP            01/01/70 00:00      
                              The deal is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Steve, Rob & Lynn            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Free            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I dont' understant...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Copyrights            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    But what if you die soon after getting a copyright            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       van den            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          "from the"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             In NL, anything above the sea level is Berg... :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                LOL!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Above sea level ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      about 60% or so ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         they beat us            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Prove it !            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Mountain            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Mountains :)            01/01/70 00:00      
   is that where this comes from            01/01/70 00:00      
   32-bit Vista            01/01/70 00:00      
      Have you tried ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Deja Vu            01/01/70 00:00      
            use the boat anchor approach            01/01/70 00:00      
   XP available if you know where to go            01/01/70 00:00      
      thats where ebay and similar come in handy            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vista doesnt support many DOS programs            01/01/70 00:00      
         don't you get it?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Virtualize, or emulate.            01/01/70 00:00      
            dosemu for linux            01/01/70 00:00      
         Virtual PC            01/01/70 00:00      

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