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#132263 - Hmm Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Richard Erlacher said:
and you don't see people with iPods plugged into their ears. You do realize that depending on the kind of work and the type of people, many people do work better with music... Depending on what I'm doing, I have the music going in the background. That wouldn't work in an office environment so an iPod would be the logical alternative. And if it's a cube farm, it'd help me from being distracted from all the other chatter in the office which is no better than personal chatter as far as distractions go. Richard Erlacher said:
We expect people who are paid to work to do that all the time they're being paid. Personal phone calls can be made during breaks and off-site. That way they don't disturb others. Cellphones have to remain off-site. Anyone whose cellphone is noticed during a meeting, or, for that matter at any other time, is immediately dismissed. It's in their contract. Being productive while being paid is certainly something I can agree with, but generally speaking it sounds like that company is well into the Nazi-level control zone. I wouldn't work there. Not because I want to play games on company time or talk on a cell phone in the office, but because I wouldn't accept working in a company that trusts its employees so little that it thinks that level of control is necessary. Richard Erlacher said:
If you need privacy in order to be happy on your job, then it's because you need to hide. Nobody here needs to do that. Nonsense! What do you have your people doing, building widgets all day that requires no thought? I would think not because you've said that you only like people with 20+ years of experience and you don't need that to solder some widgets. And if you're requiring people to think, a quiet place to close the door and concentrate is of vital importance. Especially if you're not going to allow iPods to at least tune out the background noise. Some things I can do with someone running a jack hammer in the background. But when there's a tricky problem, I need to be able to concentrate. Somewhere to close the door and block out all the sound is absolutely necessary and has nothing to do with hiding anything. Sheesh. Richard Erlacher said:
They haven't yet learned that they are passed over for promotion or "plums" when they've always used up their sick-leave and vacation at the end of the year. If someone runs out of sick days every year, that's suspicious. But using up all the vacation days? That's part of what you're paying them, Richard. That's like offering someone $2000/week and passing them up for a promotion because they didn't leave $200 on the table. Rob Vassar said:
Work ethic, play ethic... Whatever. Antique management methods is more like it. Sounds a little too close to totalitarianism to me. Amen. Regards, Craig Steiner |