| ??? 05/14/07 22:09 Read: times |
#139248 - irrelevant and immaterial Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Erik Malund said:
Your unconsidered comment implied that there were never any ICE's for 805x's before Windows. That was false, and I gave you an example.
I never said that, I used them, but the discussion is not DOS vs Windows, but Windows vs Linux. If you'd ever used the Intel ICE-51, you'd know it didn't use DOS. Re: 'plain vanilla' that, to me, means a modern chip with standard everything AND sufficient internal memory. Naming the ancient external everything 'plain vanilla' these days is going back to when a 'plain vanilla' ice cone cost $025.
The original 8052 had 256 bytes of IRAM, same as the current ones, but had only 8kB of internal code space (EPROM). A lot of applications can live within those constraints. More can be useful, but mainly encourages waste. Erik The MDS, which is Intel's hardware/software, doesn't run DOS. It predates the PC. It uses the old SSSD 8" floppy disk drives. The ICE 85 and 86, IIRC, used iAPX, but I haven't looked at 'em in over 15 years. I hated that stuff! The 805x is still a very current architecture. It's as "modern" as any. I think it's a little limited to assert that anything on which the paint is dry is no longer modern. RE |
