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05/12/07 21:29
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 		 #139143 - I don't think so
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
Note to those that do such (work on '51 and Linux) there might be a business opportunity here. If someone provided, a full '51 suite (see above for what that encompass) not a 'functional equivalent' but something as good or better in quality and support I'd consider paying what I pay today for tools and support to various vendors for such a service


I don't think so. The '51 developer market is an inherently small market. That is, in large part, why quality development tools are expensive--they don't sell millions of copies.

SDCC is a noble endeavor but it exists because of the passion of those that develop and support it. I do not think there is any viable business opportunity in it. The '51 development market is small to start with it. Further reduce that to the '51 development market that is using Linux and your potential market is about 16 copies. Oh, and students and low-budget hobbyists which are looking for "free."

My experience with open source has been that only large projects flourish. I wrote a book in OpenOffice and I think it's a fine alternative. But I wanted to ditch QuickBooks and use GNUCash instead, and that was a joke. I promptly abandoned that effort.

Regards,
Craig Steiner


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Microsoft Vista            01/01/70 00:00      
   i, fortunately have no been exposed but            01/01/70 00:00      
   Avoid Vista.            01/01/70 00:00      
      so, maybe, this time, they can\'t            01/01/70 00:00      
         Last I heard ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sales            01/01/70 00:00      
               what?            01/01/70 00:00      
   companies over here            01/01/70 00:00      
      That makes you suspicious.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Sad but true ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Beta            01/01/70 00:00      
   Aero Glass            01/01/70 00:00      
      Downside ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         same here            01/01/70 00:00      
      Did that            01/01/70 00:00      
         pray explain            01/01/70 00:00      
            I believe 2GB is the RAM, not the disk.            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
               I somehow read 200, long day            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You can see the future !            01/01/70 00:00      
   What about Office 2007            01/01/70 00:00      
      Better than what?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Saw it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Look at that            01/01/70 00:00      
            Heheheh            01/01/70 00:00      
               office 2007            01/01/70 00:00      
                  on a related subject            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Backing up MyDocuments            01/01/70 00:00      
                        2TB Tape            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Backing up large disks            01/01/70 00:00      
                           a problem with disks ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        works like a charm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You can remove my documents from your desktop            01/01/70 00:00      
                     But it's very useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                        did I mention 'robustness'?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I may have stated a bit incorrectly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Google is your friend            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    as often stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Defaults            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    you will STILL have to change the directory            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Makes no sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                              that is the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    maybe I am, but tyhe underlying factor is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     My Documents ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Windows home directories            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Stupid Folder Name            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Spaces            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Don't mess with the Registry!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Comedy ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Re: Spaces - Cygwin/*nix            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's simpler than that.            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm going to sound like a zealot here...            01/01/70 00:00      
      neither content nor style makes you sound a zealot            01/01/70 00:00      
      at what cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hidden costs.            01/01/70 00:00      
         I question...            01/01/70 00:00      
            but ... Apple cleverly hid the useful features            01/01/70 00:00      
               The world moved on...            01/01/70 00:00      
         cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
            True            01/01/70 00:00      
            You just have to know how to shop.            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, it don't and I do not give a hoot            01/01/70 00:00      
               To a recent Mac ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Mac vs. PC            01/01/70 00:00      
               no hoots            01/01/70 00:00      
                  don't know about price, but I havs an 'octopus'            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I paid $2 for mine ... and it's not the first ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Multiple displays            01/01/70 00:00      
                           desktop replacement?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Desktop replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Our needs are clearly different!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    My laptop            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    clarify            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I don't begrudge you that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          more clarity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Different strokes ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                trackball cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Gee ... things have changed ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Laptop use            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Being of a different generation ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh, Richard we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Old Guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          i DO use the latest technologies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          If that's what you think ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Cellphones: not just for business.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That's why I don't allow 'em IN the office            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   landlines            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yes, it's lifestyle differences            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         the inventor of the cellphone made one mistake            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vista Sucks            01/01/70 00:00      
      And the worst thing is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      True, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not a solution to every problem ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Depends on needs            01/01/70 00:00      
               OK, if a Yugo is a 'functional replacement' for a            01/01/70 00:00      
                  replacement ... ... there isn\'t one ... yet            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Analogy?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     in your rebuttal, you confirmed my argument            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ... Be careful what you wish for ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           be careful what you bet on            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You HAVE to make a food-fight out of this, eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I never said that, I used them, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    irrelevant and immaterial            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       MDS flashback            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I never learned to like those "emulators" either.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             8 inch drives            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 DOS            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Linux is not a Yugo...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                        faster isn't always "better"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           YES            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ...and pears            01/01/70 00:00      
                           in this forum most people are in the \'51 bu            01/01/70 00:00      
                              YOU look it up ... and learn to spell it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 i catually did look up one before using it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SiLabs and Linux            01/01/70 00:00      
                     patches, patches, patches            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Do you seriously believe KEIL or Windows is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                        well, I said...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Viruses            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Don't be so sure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Because            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Because?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How, out of interest.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Very            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Nontechnical users            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Must just be me            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I can confirm this            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You should see their scripts...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  same here            01/01/70 00:00      
         not a solution            01/01/70 00:00      
            For you maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
               see my earlier (in the threadlist) reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's why I'm leaning toward SDCC!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Others seem to agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                  that is well known, and as they ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don't think so            01/01/70 00:00      
            Some software providers have recognized that!            01/01/70 00:00      
               excellent            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I'm not sure what you're asking ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Virtualize ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what does that do to productivity?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It\'s not a simulator ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Linux versions of FPGA tools            01/01/70 00:00      

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