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05/12/07 17:25
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#139124 - Others seem to agree
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jeff Post said:
Erik Malund said:

Not a solution. It will be when you can provide me with CodeWright, Keil, SILabs, Ceibo, Acqura, BP micro, .... software running under Linux.


See my earlier posting about being wedded to specific apps. There's nothing wrong with wanting to use a specific application instead of a functional equivalent, but one should weigh the pros and cons--cost, exposure to malware, freedom to tinker with the code, etc. On my balance scale, Windows loses. Big time. The same is true for many other people. YMMV.


When the Gatesians managed to make Windows 'the standard' they effectively shut anyone that can not run windows apps out.


I don't see it that way, nor do millions of other Linux users.


Now for an ugly thought: is the frequent need to upgrade apps to run under newer windows releases a result of windows changing just to keep anyone attempting to run windows apps with something else scrambling?


Nope. It's an attempt to extract a never ending revenue stream from Windows users.



Numerous governments throughout the world have abandoned Windows in favor of UBUNTU or some other free, out-of-the-box-functional distribution of LINUX. The key has been the fact that there are MSOFFICE-compatible file processing tools with a look and feel similar enought to MSOffice tools, e.g, EXCEL and WORD, that they can exchange files with other agencies that use Windows or don't without the incompatibility issues that once troubled everyone when these tools were new, back in the late '80's. Now that they can use LINUX, which is quite transparent to computer scientists, unlike the totally undocumented and relatively unsupported Windows, they don't feel that they've been "painted into a corner" with a sole-sourced product.

The reason M$ has released Vista now, is because they want the money in order to hit their Wall-Street targets. Once they start slipping in that area, it will become apparent to everyone which way they're headed.

I've said it before, M$ is leaving the computer-using public twisting in the wind in favor of a game box market that's still growing at a tremendous rate. Once they see themselves succeeding in that area, I'd guess the Windows project will come to an end.

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Microsoft Vista            01/01/70 00:00      
   i, fortunately have no been exposed but            01/01/70 00:00      
   Avoid Vista.            01/01/70 00:00      
      so, maybe, this time, they can\'t            01/01/70 00:00      
         Last I heard ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sales            01/01/70 00:00      
               what?            01/01/70 00:00      
   companies over here            01/01/70 00:00      
      That makes you suspicious.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Sad but true ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Beta            01/01/70 00:00      
   Aero Glass            01/01/70 00:00      
      Downside ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         same here            01/01/70 00:00      
      Did that            01/01/70 00:00      
         pray explain            01/01/70 00:00      
            I believe 2GB is the RAM, not the disk.            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
               I somehow read 200, long day            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You can see the future !            01/01/70 00:00      
   What about Office 2007            01/01/70 00:00      
      Better than what?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Saw it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Look at that            01/01/70 00:00      
            Heheheh            01/01/70 00:00      
               office 2007            01/01/70 00:00      
                  on a related subject            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Backing up MyDocuments            01/01/70 00:00      
                        2TB Tape            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Backing up large disks            01/01/70 00:00      
                           a problem with disks ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        works like a charm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You can remove my documents from your desktop            01/01/70 00:00      
                     But it's very useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                        did I mention 'robustness'?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I may have stated a bit incorrectly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Google is your friend            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    as often stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Defaults            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    you will STILL have to change the directory            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Makes no sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                              that is the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    maybe I am, but tyhe underlying factor is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     My Documents ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Windows home directories            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Stupid Folder Name            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Spaces            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Don't mess with the Registry!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Comedy ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Re: Spaces - Cygwin/*nix            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's simpler than that.            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm going to sound like a zealot here...            01/01/70 00:00      
      neither content nor style makes you sound a zealot            01/01/70 00:00      
      at what cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hidden costs.            01/01/70 00:00      
         I question...            01/01/70 00:00      
            but ... Apple cleverly hid the useful features            01/01/70 00:00      
               The world moved on...            01/01/70 00:00      
         cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
            True            01/01/70 00:00      
            You just have to know how to shop.            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, it don't and I do not give a hoot            01/01/70 00:00      
               To a recent Mac ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Mac vs. PC            01/01/70 00:00      
               no hoots            01/01/70 00:00      
                  don't know about price, but I havs an 'octopus'            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I paid $2 for mine ... and it's not the first ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Multiple displays            01/01/70 00:00      
                           desktop replacement?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Desktop replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Our needs are clearly different!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    My laptop            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    clarify            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I don't begrudge you that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          more clarity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Different strokes ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                trackball cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Gee ... things have changed ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Laptop use            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Being of a different generation ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh, Richard we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Old Guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          i DO use the latest technologies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          If that's what you think ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Cellphones: not just for business.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That's why I don't allow 'em IN the office            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   landlines            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yes, it's lifestyle differences            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         the inventor of the cellphone made one mistake            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vista Sucks            01/01/70 00:00      
      And the worst thing is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      True, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not a solution to every problem ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Depends on needs            01/01/70 00:00      
               OK, if a Yugo is a 'functional replacement' for a            01/01/70 00:00      
                  replacement ... ... there isn\'t one ... yet            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Analogy?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     in your rebuttal, you confirmed my argument            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ... Be careful what you wish for ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           be careful what you bet on            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You HAVE to make a food-fight out of this, eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I never said that, I used them, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    irrelevant and immaterial            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       MDS flashback            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I never learned to like those "emulators" either.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             8 inch drives            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 DOS            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Linux is not a Yugo...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                        faster isn't always "better"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           YES            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ...and pears            01/01/70 00:00      
                           in this forum most people are in the \'51 bu            01/01/70 00:00      
                              YOU look it up ... and learn to spell it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 i catually did look up one before using it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SiLabs and Linux            01/01/70 00:00      
                     patches, patches, patches            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Do you seriously believe KEIL or Windows is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                        well, I said...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Viruses            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Don't be so sure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Because            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Because?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How, out of interest.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Very            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Nontechnical users            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Must just be me            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I can confirm this            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You should see their scripts...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  same here            01/01/70 00:00      
         not a solution            01/01/70 00:00      
            For you maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
               see my earlier (in the threadlist) reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's why I'm leaning toward SDCC!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Others seem to agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                  that is well known, and as they ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don't think so            01/01/70 00:00      
            Some software providers have recognized that!            01/01/70 00:00      
               excellent            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I'm not sure what you're asking ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Virtualize ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what does that do to productivity?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It\'s not a simulator ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Linux versions of FPGA tools            01/01/70 00:00      

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