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03/27/06 05:51
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#113171 - There's a distinction to be made
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Well, nobody said health care insurance/subsidy is better in the U.S. than anywhere else. In fact, there are a lot of misconceptions about what's better or worse. There's no question that the best health care, from a technological standpoint, is available here in the U.S. Whether you can afford it or not is another issue.

Lots of misguided 20-something folks here in the U.S. are aligned with the Republican party because they think the Republican party is the party of opportunity. I say that's hogwash! Sure, the Republican party will support a person's ambitions to become richer and more powerful, but only if his net worth already exceeds a billion and his annual income exceeds 1E8. If you're only a hundred-millionaire, they don't care about you and, in reality, want to tax you into oblivion.

The current White House is full of "eugenicists" whose goal it is to provide opportunity for those at the top of the economic ladder to acquire more at the expense of those who have less, because they want a distinct impoverished lower class to do their bidding while they enjoy their trillions. They're not there, yet, but that's where they want to go. If you have questions about that, just look up some of the opinions of Herbert Walker (ever heard of George Herbert Walker Bush?). We call him George the first.

I could go on, but the evidence abounds.

When my parents brought me here from Germany in the early '50's, things in Germany were pretty awful. They came here looking for opportunity. There appeared to be plenty of it, but it was hollow. While the taxes have been kept relatively low, over the past half century, shortly before my father died, he noted that all his friends and colleagues in Germany, those with whom he'd worked and even those with whom he'd apprenticed as a boy, were enjoying a substantially better quality of life than he. Their health care was secure, their pensions were secure, as workers they'd been treated better than he had, despite the fact he'd been a union member most of his life, and, most of all, they didn't have to concern themselves with the government corruption, rampant crime, and predatory business practices that abound in the U.S. The most vacation he'd ever had was three weeks, the most sick leave he'd ever had was a week, though the total amount of work he'd missed in his entire working life, was eight days, of which 6 were days in the hospital when he was in the military and had been wounded in combat.

I could go on at some length about that, too. Don't even get me started on the subject of public education here. It's disgusting, tragic, and, worse, it's no better in Europe. I typically recommend that folks send their kids to college in India, though I don't know whether that's even possible, since it's so much cheaper there, and since living costs are lower. Since that education is acceptable to so many U.S. employers, U.S. universities should suffer the competition until they stop playing the games they're playing. The public education in the lower K-12 (kindergarten through grade 12) system is totally in the toilet, as, now, teachers have nothing to teach, since their education consists almost entirely of education courses. When I was in school, my teachers had all had real jobs, as waiters, oilfield workers, soldiers, sailors, engineers, etc. Nowadays, they're unable to form a complete sentence, yet receive as much pay as technically competent engineers, lawyers, and accountants who really have learned what it is to do useful work.

Anyway, folks, it's not a bed of roses.

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California            01/01/70 00:00      
   2 suggestions            01/01/70 00:00      
   California - not            01/01/70 00:00      
      security issues            01/01/70 00:00      
         California            01/01/70 00:00      
      Saner pastures            01/01/70 00:00      
         CA is not all bad            01/01/70 00:00      
            San Diego            01/01/70 00:00      
                San Diego            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Death Valley            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Death Valley            01/01/70 00:00      
                     "my" CA desert            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Go by bus            01/01/70 00:00      
               climate            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is any place sane?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Options            01/01/70 00:00      
            True, until            01/01/70 00:00      
               from a "professional expat"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  English food            01/01/70 00:00      
                     cookin'            01/01/70 00:00      
               Back in US            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Recently            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Denver!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Welcome Home!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Anywhere else, almost            01/01/70 00:00      
      HA            01/01/70 00:00      
         You misunderstand,            01/01/70 00:00      
         They even have ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Don't forget Paris (Texas that is)            01/01/70 00:00      
               POT??? I thought that was my belly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  All started with            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Hehehe            01/01/70 00:00      
            Madras (Oregon)            01/01/70 00:00      
               I, being Danish sleep on one every night            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why            01/01/70 00:00      
            as jimi hendrix said            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sampling the Delights            01/01/70 00:00      
         look at taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Taxes etc            01/01/70 00:00      
               warm with no taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
               US Taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  US tax structure            01/01/70 00:00      
                  +            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NI            01/01/70 00:00      
                        exports            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Health cost for old folk            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Realities            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Planning            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not being flippant about it...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Buy your US health coverage in the UK            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I'd be really careful ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Ouch.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              There's a distinction to be made            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Hmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I agree, and it's getting worse            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Hoo, boy, got me started...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there's another thread ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     US senior medical            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but it only lasts so long            01/01/70 00:00      
               Texas might be a choice            01/01/70 00:00      
            Taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
         Near the Ocean            01/01/70 00:00      
            expanding            01/01/70 00:00      
            Florida            01/01/70 00:00      
               Florida not so great            01/01/70 00:00      
         Wife loved it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Second home program            01/01/70 00:00      
   the land of fruits and nuts            01/01/70 00:00      
      Palo Alto et al            01/01/70 00:00      
         How about Oz?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Oz            01/01/70 00:00      
               Spiders?            01/01/70 00:00      
               From what I hear ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Oz culture            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's a nice place to visit ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         San Diego            01/01/70 00:00      
            El Cajon            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not bad, but listen to Erik ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  El Cajon, etc            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It looks "too good to be true"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Where in Denver?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I know that area ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 It's more than 20 minutes, even at 3 a.m            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Close            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Well ,,, I try to stay at home ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Lager Louts            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             sports riots            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Square footage            01/01/70 00:00      
                           look for an older house, then            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Housing Fugures            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That they were build elsewhere and broug            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 probably it means "prefabricated"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    one other thing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Construction methods            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       not any more            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Safe as Houses            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Peculiar, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Trusting you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             That's why they slide            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Basements            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                coming back            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Example?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                US thing?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Canada Too            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      the home of low quality and high price            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Quite Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Dunno            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      In the '70's ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Move to CA in 1979 .. never looked back.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Encinitas            01/01/70 00:00      
   Earthquakes, mudslides, gang-bangers and            01/01/70 00:00      
      HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not Madrid            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   come on over and enjoy your stay            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
         sites            01/01/70 00:00      
            Visit Bryce Canyon, too            01/01/70 00:00      
      First Long Visit            01/01/70 00:00      
         I guess that will work, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         My suggestion            01/01/70 00:00      
            Arw, come on we southeasteners have plea            01/01/70 00:00      
            Don't forget about New England            01/01/70 00:00      
               True            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You can limit yourself to 3 day visits            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Boulders nice            01/01/70 00:00      
                        you can't smoke there, though            01/01/70 00:00      
                  45 limit            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Northrepps?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        English Food            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Hmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I have to agree, it's circling the bowl            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 true, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Ma and Pa            01/01/70 00:00      
                           training            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I also like Tuborgs            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Northrepps International Airport            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Northrepps Hilton            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exploitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Old Foundries            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Pilot error            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Pilot Training.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Lager            01/01/70 00:00      
   Guiness book            01/01/70 00:00      
      This probably wasn't intended to be            01/01/70 00:00      

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