| Which modern small 8051 should I use? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| addition | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| contradicting yourself. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Get on with SiLabs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Thanks for all of your input! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| power miser | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Re: Power Miser | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Still Need the SiLabs Adapter | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Why? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: 8-bit 8051 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| SiLabs is sometimes a bit slow ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: "slow"? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Well ... It might have been coincidental ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| AT89S2051/4051 or ATLP2052/4052 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| and lose all the goodies | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Onewire debug? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| tradeoffs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Is a hobbyist not extremely likely to gain | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| JTAG | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| cost to debug | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| cost of AVR debugging "dongle" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You have to ask yourself ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Beginners have even more reason for debug cells, i.e. ICE | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| WHAT, exactly, is a hobbyist likely to gain from built-in de | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I still think it 6 one way and half-a-dozen the other | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| why go old fashioned | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Where you sit determines what you see. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| exactly this | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Those are all things the monitor allows | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| please explain how the monitor allows ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Monitors really not good choice for new designs/developers | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Describing Richards preferences | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It doesn't help with 'C' code at all | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| maybe not using that word | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "Small" 8051 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: "Small" 8051 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Productivity/quality really important for hobbyists too | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the calculation | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| True cost comes in maintainance | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I totally agree, however | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Ratio? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| all numbers are arbitrary | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| but it's good to be ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not needed | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| A couple of things ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: A couple of things ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| neither does a SILabs toolstick | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Starting out, the old-reliable antiques are very easy | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Wrong conceptual level for majority of needs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
only somewhat true | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| First, Define Icc and Code Size Targets | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's more complicated than that | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that is not enough | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that is not enough | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| which was what I posted | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| ROFL | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not a simple formula! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| power | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| OCD != Emulation | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the particular hobbyist in question | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It does allow him to maintain separation from the hardware | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
