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??? 02/14/12 04:38 Read: times	#185917 - Those are all things the monitor allows Responding to: ???'s previous message

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Topic	Author	Date
Which modern small 8051 should I use?		01/01/70 00:00
addition		01/01/70 00:00
contradicting yourself.		01/01/70 00:00
Get on with SiLabs		01/01/70 00:00
Thanks for all of your input!		01/01/70 00:00
power miser		01/01/70 00:00
Re: Power Miser		01/01/70 00:00
Still Need the SiLabs Adapter		01/01/70 00:00
Why?		01/01/70 00:00
RE: 8-bit 8051		01/01/70 00:00
SiLabs is sometimes a bit slow ...		01/01/70 00:00
RE: "slow"?		01/01/70 00:00
Well ... It might have been coincidental ...		01/01/70 00:00
AT89S2051/4051 or ATLP2052/4052		01/01/70 00:00
and lose all the goodies		01/01/70 00:00
Onewire debug?		01/01/70 00:00
tradeoffs		01/01/70 00:00
Is a hobbyist not extremely likely to gain		01/01/70 00:00
JTAG		01/01/70 00:00
cost to debug		01/01/70 00:00
cost of AVR debugging "dongle"		01/01/70 00:00
You have to ask yourself ...		01/01/70 00:00
Beginners have even more reason for debug cells, i.e. ICE		01/01/70 00:00
WHAT, exactly, is a hobbyist likely to gain from built-in de		01/01/70 00:00
I still think it 6 one way and half-a-dozen the other		01/01/70 00:00
why go old fashioned		01/01/70 00:00
Where you sit determines what you see.		01/01/70 00:00
exactly this		01/01/70 00:00
Those are all things the monitor allows		01/01/70 00:00
please explain how the monitor allows ...		01/01/70 00:00
Monitors really not good choice for new designs/developers		01/01/70 00:00
Describing Richards preferences		01/01/70 00:00
It doesn't help with 'C' code at all		01/01/70 00:00
maybe not using that word		01/01/70 00:00
"Small" 8051		01/01/70 00:00
RE: "Small" 8051		01/01/70 00:00
Productivity/quality really important for hobbyists too		01/01/70 00:00
the calculation		01/01/70 00:00
True cost comes in maintainance		01/01/70 00:00
I totally agree, however		01/01/70 00:00
Ratio?		01/01/70 00:00
all numbers are arbitrary		01/01/70 00:00
but it's good to be ...		01/01/70 00:00
Not needed		01/01/70 00:00
A couple of things ...		01/01/70 00:00
RE: A couple of things ...		01/01/70 00:00
neither does a SILabs toolstick		01/01/70 00:00
Starting out, the old-reliable antiques are very easy		01/01/70 00:00
Wrong conceptual level for majority of needs		01/01/70 00:00
only somewhat true		01/01/70 00:00
First, Define Icc and Code Size Targets		01/01/70 00:00
It's more complicated than that		01/01/70 00:00
that is not enough		01/01/70 00:00
that is not enough		01/01/70 00:00
which was what I posted		01/01/70 00:00
ROFL		01/01/70 00:00
Not a simple formula!		01/01/70 00:00
power		01/01/70 00:00
OCD != Emulation		01/01/70 00:00
the particular hobbyist in question		01/01/70 00:00
It does allow him to maintain separation from the hardware		01/01/70 00:00

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