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06/02/10 13:14
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#176351 - Never trust a supplier.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
Chico Magalhães said:
There is a nice politely way to ask a code here?

I'm starting to sell DS18B20 sensors.

Is it polite to ask someone to work for you for free, so that you can make money doing this?!

I like to test ALL devices before shipping it to the customer.

As Jez says, why do you want to do this?

Don't you trust your supplier?

There's no justification for trusting any supplier. As the late president Reagan said, "Trust but verify." What Chico is wanting, it seems, is incoming inspection. When you purchase small quantities, i.e. <<10k units per week, the distributor won't consider you important enough to treat well, so you have to be aware that he may ship you someone else's rejects.

The real problem is I'm VERY busy with the sellings

And everyone else is busy with their own day jobs!

Maybe someone already made this code, maybe could share

"share" implies some mutual benefit - what are you proposing to offer in exchange?

If you really want someone to do this for you on a commercial basis, you will need to do 2 things:
  • Provide a proper specification of what, exactly, you require;
  • Pay a proper commercial rate for the work.


  • Another thing would be to think a bit more about how one might accomplish what is required, and do that. In the context of incoming inspection, that's generally necessary. If it's outgoing inspection, it's just part of the initial design process. Thoughtful analysis of the task ought always to precede design.

    RE



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    How to politely ask a "gimme code"?            01/01/70 00:00      
       Sadly            01/01/70 00:00      
          Atmel?            01/01/70 00:00      
       hire someone            01/01/70 00:00      
       Is it polite?            01/01/70 00:00      
          yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
             That's business!            01/01/70 00:00      
                You will introduce defects => reduced reliability            01/01/70 00:00      
                   location            01/01/70 00:00      
                      What this means Jan?            01/01/70 00:00      
                         It means Jan comprehends your situation            01/01/70 00:00      
             male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
          Never trust a supplier.            01/01/70 00:00      
             Richard, I wonder ....            01/01/70 00:00      
       What exactly would you like to test?            01/01/70 00:00      
          Maybe just some readings            01/01/70 00:00      
             LMGTFY            01/01/70 00:00      
       What's to write?            01/01/70 00:00      
          or RS232 to 1-Wire            01/01/70 00:00      
       Is that viable??            01/01/70 00:00      
          profit? Profit is nothing! Profit is JUST profit!            01/01/70 00:00      
             And how was anyone supposed to know that??!            01/01/70 00:00      
                Off topic!            01/01/70 00:00      
                   Ever so often            01/01/70 00:00      
                      I dont agree!            01/01/70 00:00      
                         Baloney            01/01/70 00:00      
                   Totally missing the point!            01/01/70 00:00      
                      I agree and not            01/01/70 00:00      
                         No storm in the thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                            The thread is just debating a larger issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                            in America we have a variant ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                         Only after 5 days!            01/01/70 00:00      
                         contradicting yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                         You really should have specified the whole task            01/01/70 00:00      
                            I dont agree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                               Totally missing the point again!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  A moment of silence and reflection...            01/01/70 00:00      
                               Cable can not be ignored            01/01/70 00:00      
                               the problem is            01/01/70 00:00      
             Of course profit matters!!            01/01/70 00:00      
             what is the purpose of customer satisfaction ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                Satisfied customer doesn't imply profit            01/01/70 00:00      
                   In my book there is no such thing            01/01/70 00:00      
                      Services != products != commodity products...            01/01/70 00:00      
                         never said that            01/01/70 00:00      
                            sometimes satisfaction isn't even part of the equation            01/01/70 00:00      
                               leave it be            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  The issue is that every business case most be guestimated            01/01/70 00:00      
                               Horrible Mentality            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  Not true at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  Know your customer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                     more years ago than I am willing to tell ...            01/01/70 00:00      
       don't ask, search            01/01/70 00:00      
          "device find" - shouldn't be necessary...            01/01/70 00:00      
             It's been a while ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                skip rom            01/01/70 00:00      
       Other forums            01/01/70 00:00      
          All fourms are different            01/01/70 00:00      
             The more free code you get, the lower quality            01/01/70 00:00      
             not just you            01/01/70 00:00      
          Come on, Chico!            01/01/70 00:00      
             many posters suffer from the same            01/01/70 00:00      
       One word answer            01/01/70 00:00      
          I think he asked properly            01/01/70 00:00      
             Urealistic expectations            01/01/70 00:00      
                Full agree!            01/01/70 00:00      
                   Wrong!            01/01/70 00:00      
                      Totally inadequate specification!            01/01/70 00:00      
                      Most definitely relevant!            01/01/70 00:00      
                      that does not matter at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                         I'm scared!            01/01/70 00:00      
          Thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
       Take help of ABBA...            01/01/70 00:00      
          Pun, Pune.            01/01/70 00:00      
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          More?            01/01/70 00:00      
       Are you all mean with me because I'm Brazilian?            01/01/70 00:00      
          No.            01/01/70 00:00      
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                Sorry if ignored            01/01/70 00:00      
                   Maxium makes an adapter            01/01/70 00:00      
                      Maxim            01/01/70 00:00      
                         So I can not spell :( NM            01/01/70 00:00      
          When the consensus is against you, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
             3. They are genius!            01/01/70 00:00      
                "Simple" (sic) questions            01/01/70 00:00      
                Ask questions if you are lost - don't ignore            01/01/70 00:00      
                   power            01/01/70 00:00      
                      here we go again            01/01/70 00:00      
                         power            01/01/70 00:00      
                            Depends what you mean by "simple"            01/01/70 00:00      
                               Second option.. "normal"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  It depends upon the application            01/01/70 00:00      
                                     Test as intended application...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                     I 200% agree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                        No, people didn't say that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                           I dont agree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                              Much more forgotten            01/01/70 00:00      
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          What could be so bad being a Brazilian??            01/01/70 00:00      

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