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03/31/12 14:19
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 		 #186951 - They can't even do one well!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I would agree that once you get an IDE organised, it is probably not too difficult to add another device.

Atmel prefer a half-hearted approach.

Instead of jumping into bed with IAR, Code Red, Rowley, Keil ... they try to do things themselves. ***** badly *****

IMHO, a silicon manufacturer should concentrate on Silicon, App notes, Evaluation hardware.
Leave a Software company to concentrate on Compilers, Debuggers, Simulators, IDEs.

Obviously they should cooperate closely with the Simulator / debugger side.

In fact Atmel have 8051, AVR-8, AVR32, ARM as four different architectures. And ARM-M0 is fairly different to ARM9.

Most devices nowadays have free / subsidised tools of varying quality. The 8051 has the excellent Keil tools. If SiLabs thought that it was worth their while, they would possibly subsidise uVision in a similar way.

David.

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P89V51Rx2 and P89LPC97x/P89LPC98x discontinued            01/01/70 00:00      
   Obsolete            01/01/70 00:00      
      in my opinion, a better idea            01/01/70 00:00      
         Attitude towards customers...            01/01/70 00:00      
            the story again, since Kai forgot            01/01/70 00:00      
               This is indeed a very very sad story...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, but it's a story similar to the one I told ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The problem is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the problem is different            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's true and correct, BUT ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           So I did!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              my take            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    sure I cam            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Look to the future            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I will, when ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       This wasn't a single person ... it was a whole team            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I guess 2 or 3 idiots...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I spoke with more than that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I also think few people where to blame            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Possibly, however ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Your only memory?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         No ... but it's the only ATMEL project I've been in.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         re repeats            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Not exactly ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
               In US or Denmark?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  maybe, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                  $10E7 would not be enough            01/01/70 00:00      
            Guess what! ... I don't use NXP either.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Silicon Labs            01/01/70 00:00      
            P89C668 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
               Tekmos            01/01/70 00:00      
                  IDE choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
            re switching to SILabs            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: Silicon Labs            01/01/70 00:00      
               I have seeen very few EOLs f...            01/01/70 00:00      
         "SILabs are not making ARMs" - No Longer True!            01/01/70 00:00      
      I wouldn't rely on Atmel for 8051s...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel AT89LP51ID2 is a rew release            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                  They can't even do one well!            01/01/70 00:00      
               AT89LP Developer Studio            01/01/70 00:00      
                  AT89LP Studio is a joke            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if you want cutting edge            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Depends on features            01/01/70 00:00      
                           if 128k code is not enough,            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Microchip/SST PC Firmware - found it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 More            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 8051 Microchip press release            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Interesting.. GCC for the 8051?!            01/01/70 00:00      
   P89xV51xD2 replacement?            01/01/70 00:00      
      C8051F020 - A new chip in town..(kinda)            01/01/70 00:00      
         a thing I do when developing with the 12x/13x            01/01/70 00:00      
            I do similar for GPIO on "normal" processors            01/01/70 00:00      
               SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Silabs debug in Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                        why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Keil vs SiLabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                              SiLabs vs anyone            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there is a window for that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       SiLabs IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          please stop hijacking this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             hijack, maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          if I recall            01/01/70 00:00      
         C8051F020 is old, better is C8015F58x            01/01/70 00:00      
            then look out            01/01/70 00:00      
      SST89E516R as P89V51 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
         SST89 bootloader            01/01/70 00:00      
            Microchip, obviously, wanted ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               quite obviously :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
         SST89E516R as P89V51 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
            Bootloader for SST MCUs            01/01/70 00:00      
               SST Bootloader and Windows 7            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SST 89E516RD2 bootloader, EasyISP            01/01/70 00:00      
                     EasyIAP            01/01/70 00:00      
                        why in 2 steps?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           One step to 7            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nuvoton now have a replacement list            01/01/70 00:00      

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