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02/14/12 19:55
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#185959 - SST89 bootloader
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The datasheet hints, that there is a preprogrammed bootloader in the SST89 part. If so, it is certanly different from the NXP one; I remember reading through the SST appnotes back then and they had a dissimilar bootloader and their own PC-side utility for it. I already dug through my archive to find the relevant SST appnotes/software, but it appears that I have lost them in some of the "oh let's just leave this less important stuff behind" moments. Maybe archive.org could help.

However, as I have preached for years, I am quite certain that it's physically the same chip as the 'V51Rx2, so the NXP bootloader should work there too. You'd need some means to get it into the chip, e.g. either getting the SST bootloader (if still preloaded by Microchip) to work, or acquiring a parallel programmer (I am shamelessly pushing Elnec's offerings, both as a patriot and as a satisfied user).

I wouldn't hold my breath for too long, though. Mind that Microchip already tagged the SST89 parts as "not recommended for new design" and they apparently provide nil support (no wonder, just stating the facts).

If time permits, I will try to get some SST chips and play with them a bit; but in the last few weeks I used the "if time permits" way too many times... :-(

JW

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P89V51Rx2 and P89LPC97x/P89LPC98x discontinued            01/01/70 00:00      
   Obsolete            01/01/70 00:00      
      in my opinion, a better idea            01/01/70 00:00      
         Attitude towards customers...            01/01/70 00:00      
            the story again, since Kai forgot            01/01/70 00:00      
               This is indeed a very very sad story...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, but it's a story similar to the one I told ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The problem is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the problem is different            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's true and correct, BUT ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           So I did!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              my take            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    sure I cam            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Look to the future            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I will, when ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       This wasn't a single person ... it was a whole team            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I guess 2 or 3 idiots...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I spoke with more than that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I also think few people where to blame            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Possibly, however ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Your only memory?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         No ... but it's the only ATMEL project I've been in.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         re repeats            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Not exactly ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
               In US or Denmark?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  maybe, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                  $10E7 would not be enough            01/01/70 00:00      
            Guess what! ... I don't use NXP either.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Silicon Labs            01/01/70 00:00      
            P89C668 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
               Tekmos            01/01/70 00:00      
                  IDE choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
            re switching to SILabs            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: Silicon Labs            01/01/70 00:00      
               I have seeen very few EOLs f...            01/01/70 00:00      
         "SILabs are not making ARMs" - No Longer True!            01/01/70 00:00      
      I wouldn't rely on Atmel for 8051s...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel AT89LP51ID2 is a rew release            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                  They can't even do one well!            01/01/70 00:00      
               AT89LP Developer Studio            01/01/70 00:00      
                  AT89LP Studio is a joke            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if you want cutting edge            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Depends on features            01/01/70 00:00      
                           if 128k code is not enough,            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Microchip/SST PC Firmware - found it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 More            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 8051 Microchip press release            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Interesting.. GCC for the 8051?!            01/01/70 00:00      
   P89xV51xD2 replacement?            01/01/70 00:00      
      C8051F020 - A new chip in town..(kinda)            01/01/70 00:00      
         a thing I do when developing with the 12x/13x            01/01/70 00:00      
            I do similar for GPIO on "normal" processors            01/01/70 00:00      
               SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Silabs debug in Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                        why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Keil vs SiLabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                              SiLabs vs anyone            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    there is a window for that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    SiLabs IDE and Keil uVision 3.0            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       SiLabs IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          please stop hijacking this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             hijack, maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          if I recall            01/01/70 00:00      
         C8051F020 is old, better is C8015F58x            01/01/70 00:00      
            then look out            01/01/70 00:00      
      SST89E516R as P89V51 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
         SST89 bootloader            01/01/70 00:00      
            Microchip, obviously, wanted ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               quite obviously :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
         SST89E516R as P89V51 replacement            01/01/70 00:00      
            Bootloader for SST MCUs            01/01/70 00:00      
               SST Bootloader and Windows 7            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SST 89E516RD2 bootloader, EasyISP            01/01/70 00:00      
                     EasyIAP            01/01/70 00:00      
                        why in 2 steps?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           One step to 7            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nuvoton now have a replacement list            01/01/70 00:00      

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