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03/04/06 19:24
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Hi Richard,

I could suggest any number of things, at this juncture, but, first of all, I'd suggest you tell me a little more about what your experience and ability regarding hardware construction is.


Well, I do have experience in fabricating PCBs and circuit designing, so I have the self confidence of turning any idea into a working prototype. These are some of my circuits which are '51 related: (check page bottom), another

I'd also want, in light of your ownership of a PC, but not of an oscilloscope, to know how adept you are at programming your PC.


To be honest, my Win32 programming is this: Opening VB, and creating a form with a single button: nothing more. I was taught C in the DOS-Borland C++ compiler and I can program anything in C(and DOS, NTVDM), but not exposed to Win32 programming.

A little information about your budget would be helpful, too.


Budget is not a criteria now, but the time. It takes 24 hours for me to complete any PCB fabrication upto 6"x6", right from schematic, routing, etching, and finishing with soldering and testing.

But the problem is, if I start designing any newer circuit, that itself becomes a mini-project, and consumes much time. So time is money now! $20-$40 is affordable.

Your idea strikes me well, but once again the time factor is very critical. I am doing final year Bachelor's in Electronics and Communication, and I really do get what you intend. But your idea itself is like a project, and it is really a serious construction!

If all this seems too complicated, it probably is, and you should take a different approach. I have extensive experience with this sort of thing, however, and can probably come up with additonal options for you.


I have thought of an optional hardware: creating my own analyser. My idea is, having a 8 bit port of microcontroller(MCU) as 8 input pins, read the port, and send it thru the serial.

Now the MCU must be fast enough, I do have ATmega8535, which runs at 8MHz @ 8MIPS, or a 'vanilla' 89s52 would be handy.

The serial communication takes place only when anyone of the input bits change, so the MCU can concentrage more in port monitoring than in serial sending.

The issue is I have to read these signals and convert them into waveform. I could do this easily in my DOS-C, but once again, Windows flavour is sought!

To be honest, I wanted a 'quick fix-up' now (which is bad thinking), but I would surely prototype my above idea when time permits.

I am sorry if there are any typos here, its 1 a.m. local time.

Good night.

Cheers,
Vignesh





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Parallel port Logic Analyser            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe I can help ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Details            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well ... YES!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Oops!            01/01/70 00:00      
               another option            01/01/70 00:00      
               ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
               Try a DOS box            01/01/70 00:00      
                  When things are not going on my way..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     well            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Options            01/01/70 00:00      
                              ok well            01/01/70 00:00      
                              miniLA            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I don't sell            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    If you want something you can build ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 MiniLA?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Buying, building and Writing..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       You've got to decide ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       great start!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          AVR!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             realterm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          But they're not reall fast enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Cheat!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                only if it gains you something            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   to LA or not to LA            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      I once made one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         cost of time... and price of learning...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            there is no such thing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               1MHz sampling            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  it's not that simple            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     architecture            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not sure how it compares            01/01/70 00:00      
      not very useful            01/01/70 00:00      
   there is no way in hades that a "paralle            01/01/70 00:00      
      how fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
      not so fast there, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
         PCI LPT vs. onboard            01/01/70 00:00      
            Seems a mite slow!            01/01/70 00:00      
         yes, but part of the "software" is Windo            01/01/70 00:00      
            You're right, of course,            01/01/70 00:00      
               all good and well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  wotizit            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's it, exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Won't work either            01/01/70 00:00      
                        will work            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes, but not the way you think            01/01/70 00:00      
                              re FIFO use            01/01/70 00:00      
                              USB+FIFO: the simplest way            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Have you considered this?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    simplicity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       yes, but it's not deterministic            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          YES YES YES            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             What do you mean "forget about..."            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                quick'n'dirty            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   there are countries with low labor cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      labour cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Even if it's 768 TB, it's too small            01/01/70 00:00      
                        think about it some more            01/01/70 00:00      
                     10MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not the USB, the FIFO!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           USB logic analyzer            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's just a transfer mechanism            01/01/70 00:00      
            Zigbee timing            01/01/70 00:00      
               if a byte is 32 then a bit is 4 and you            01/01/70 00:00      
               arrrrrrrrrrrrgh and stuff,just use pci            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, well, what did you expect?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     better mousetrap            01/01/70 00:00      
               I must have been more precise            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but WHEN?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     2420 interface details            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Focus on your current needs            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Thank you            01/01/70 00:00      
   reconstructed website            01/01/70 00:00      
   Update            01/01/70 00:00      

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