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02/13/11 21:30
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 		 #181068 - Doing oneself a favour?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jason Arkwright said:
Do yourself a favour guys, ditch the '51 and go AVR

I think one might do oneself a better favour by ditching a single-manufacturer tie-in?

Especially when that single manufacturer's product roadmaps seem to be governed more by internal politics than market demands...?

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upcoming AT89LP chips            01/01/70 00:00      
   Interesting..            01/01/70 00:00      
      MCS-251            01/01/70 00:00      
   I wouldn't hold my breath ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why bother waiting?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Says who?            01/01/70 00:00      
         says me!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Doing oneself a favour?            01/01/70 00:00      
               RE: Tie-ins            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes,but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Who else manufactures '51 in PDIL40 at low cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Nobody can beat STC in the field of low cost 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Nice link            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes so fast            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Nice stuff in PDIL 40 aswell eh!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Low cost DIP's..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Who uses DIPs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The hobbyist connection..            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Things to like            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Free Tools..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Re: ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Intel            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Never did            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             it wasn't always like that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                actively promoting the core?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   things were different then ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       define "abandoned"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Managers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Re: Intel            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             actually, Intel *used to make* ARMs...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I know..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Loved the efficient 68k emulation in newer Palms            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Re: 68K virtualisation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Abandoned            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             intel museum            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                 request historical documents            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   what link?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   wayback machine            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      unfortunately not - in this case            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         ftp://download.intel.com/            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      I've found it increasingly rare ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   museum            01/01/70 00:00      
                           re: the hobbyist connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Re: the hobbyist connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              My experience            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Multitude of packages            01/01/70 00:00      
                           In that case..            01/01/70 00:00      
                           AVR - only limited DIP availability.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Limited needs for full set of DIL chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Unfortunately, there are stumbling blocks            01/01/70 00:00      
                           "Breadboards" ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes I do,            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Lovely example!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 A thing of beauty, eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What's crazy is that many of these seem to work            01/01/70 00:00      
                     RE: Check long-term availability of any DIP variants            01/01/70 00:00      
                        DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
                           And your point is...?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'm not convinced that's real reason ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Prototyping methods            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    You can say that again!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You have a point, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Have you counted the oscillator?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Look at the package pin-count.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Pin counts            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Haven't seen skinny 40-pin DIL            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I've got to agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       high pin-count DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I'm not sure what the constraints were, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Oops. I meant 0.6" DIL            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Shrink DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I remember,,,            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yes, it was 0.9 inches as was that 68000            01/01/70 00:00      
            maybe not, but            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yep,but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Is it 1998 already?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  something everybody will have to learn to live with            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I'm not so certain of that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        also disappearing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Well, once again, I have to agree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: AVR/xmega            01/01/70 00:00      

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