| Host and Target systems | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Eh?? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Huh? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| There's the totally free and unrestricted ASEM-51 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| if you are just starting .... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Look Here | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| There's only one catch | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| actually, they do. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| but they deny it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| why would it be? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yes, they sell chips, but they're of no use without support | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the "native language of a chip" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Assembler is *not* the native language of the chip! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| They make the silicon - not the tools | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Don't see manufacturer "supporting" assembler or C | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I totally agree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| while I'm inclined to agree ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Rubbish | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| If only that were relevant | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Nonsense | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| remember what the O/P wanted | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| on-chip debug is superior regardless of language | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| and the one on that EVK is one of them | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| there is no 'THE" evk | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It is not at all clear what the OP actually wanted! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Vague? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yes - vague! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Aren't you overreaching? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Don't upgrade murky into prime | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| then answer that | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's clear that some of you guys have your heads wedged | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Too many unknowns | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The first question was clear enough wasn't it? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Easy answers can be so very, very wrong | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's not the case here ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| throwing good money after bad | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Total Rubbish | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Let me add... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| More SiLabs Asm Support | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I second the motion | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Hopefully that will make it easier | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Cease and Desist | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| conversations with the SiLabs folks | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's what I'd expect. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's not what yo said | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| there's a reason | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Maybe the SiLabs guy(s) took a similar view...? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| since when is "C for a '51" not "805x code" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 'C' doesn't look like 805x code ... isn't that the point? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the point, the definition | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The only thing the 805x core executes is binary | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| just like | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| are you saying it's not relevant? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "the bible" is as relevant as ever. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The O/P has to start somewhere | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not for most | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| bad assumption ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What's so hard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| nobody said it was hard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| wrong premise | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| He specifically asked for an assembler | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| well, | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Do you want to be "second-guessed" all the time? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| what is wrong with this analogy .... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| He probably knows but can't explain it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that's why | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| don't go overboard, Erik! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| OK, I understand | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's not what I meant ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| no, he did not | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I don't disagree ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| sequence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You're right! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that's not what the O/P wanted, though | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| trying to get investors for a buggy-whip factory | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Isn't this about what the O/P wanted? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| you are the champ in ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I was mistaken ... it's SPI that they provided | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Who cares about the OP? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Based on the O/P's query ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You're the one reading-in requirements! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| question as asked often not really one to answer! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Why assume he's wrong? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| whay assume he is right? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| in the absence of information to the contrary | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Single-minded | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I don't know how he feels ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| WRONG!!! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Clearly we see things differently | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| clearly we do | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You have, once again, missed the point | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not at all | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| As I said, if he has half-a-brain ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| an absolute contradiction | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| A more relevant question | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| "a bunch of parts in a cargo van." | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| PC hardware can be used as 8086 development board | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Old comps | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| BIOS | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Time for a new thread? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Diluted | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Staggering | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Once again, you're overreaching ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Choices, choices | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| No, Never, absolutely not, nein, nichts, niemals | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I didn't bring up the antiques ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| after he has spent $$$$$ | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not at all ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| what does this have to do with it???? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That was a response to your comment | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| proving the point | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not quite ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| relevant answers | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Quite so, but ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| around | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| How do you know (I doubt it) | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| If he looks at a datasheet ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| a quick look at the datasheet | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| wrong datasheet | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| what better way is there | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it can be made to work, but it's not ideal | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| buggy whip is as good a way as any to get the horse to go | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| maybe there's a reason for the preference | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Budget | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Totally Agree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| For an experimenter ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| doing it wrong is not better than not doing it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Horsefeathers ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| to which I have always answered | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yes, you have ... and that's good of you. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| well, he don't | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| If the guy wants (sic) to hang himself | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| .. re For an experimenter | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's (probably) worse than that | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| UV light is dangerous to the eyes | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I'm not persuaded he'd do that ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| you offer to help him go blind | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| This has no bearing on how YOU do things | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| While you're right on several points ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| replied in other post | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It depends on his EPROM, doesn't it? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| what about the eraser? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| If you get the original datasheet | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| divert, when you have no comeback | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The spec says ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| WOW | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Of course it makes sense ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| OH | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| He probably won't ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| oy vey | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it's dirt-simple | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that whoosing sound ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It wasn't a challenge to my 12-year-old | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 28C16 EEPROM | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Ease of programming important when learning | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| when you start programming, you do a lot of mistakes | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| EPROM can't be trusted if used out-of-spec | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| These processes can be automated | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the ultimate digression | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It won't hurt him to know ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that baloney burned when you fried it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I think you've misninterpreted something | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| stop crapping | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Just a minute... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| if you go for "simulating a 8031" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Some are simpler | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I have to agree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Here we go again | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Lest We Not Forget.... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The basic problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: Andy ... seems to be able to recall... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| O.K. -- the O/P behaves badly | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Sorry everyone | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Please don't be scared to continue ask questions | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Thanks | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Starting a new thread | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that's no problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Is it Time Yet? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
