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06/03/12 17:43
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#187605 - well, the fact is ..
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You can get a whole lot better oscilloscope, i.e. more bandwidth, more features, etc, for considerably less if you just LOOK. Just as an example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektr...5894412460

Now this 'scope doesn't come with probes, it doesn't have a built-in signal source, and so on, but it will trigger on signals that even some competing "current-generation" 'scopes costing tens of times more won't. It becomes a tradeoff, I guess. You have to decide what's important to you.

Now, I freely admit that I'm not a fan of PC-based instruments, and that I am, in fact, a user of a 'scope of much earlier technology most of the time, though I do own later, faster, more costly and very-much computer controlled instruments. I just like to be able to operate my oscilloscope, which is, after all, my "eye" into the workings of my circuitry, by feel, rather than by checking a display all the time. As I've been using the Tek 475A since the '70's, I've grown accustomed to the "feel" of it, and can work it without taking my eyes off where I'm poking the probe. I do still have to look at the display, of course, but I don't have to figure out which knob/button does what within a given context.

In the last analysis, I guess it's a matter of preference more than anything else.

It's worth noting, however, that a really well-functioning TEK 465, 475, etc, can often be obtained, used of course, through eBay, with the at least 100 MHz -3db bandwidth, for not much over $100US. Probes can often be obtained for about $20-30US, and you should have three of them, one for the external trigger.

I'd recommend "reading the fine print" and asking the seller questions such as, "Does this instrument function fully and properly" so you have recourse if it doesn't.

One other thing ... I've built small instruments/lab-tools weighing very little, and found that it's best to have them weigh enough to stay on the workbench when you're using them with cables/probes, etc. attached. I once (many years ago) built a very effective and useful continuity tester designed to operate without turning on semiconductors with a probe voltage below 0.32 volts, in a 25 x 40 x 55 mm box, only to have it land in my lap every time I pulled on the probe cables, disconnecting itself from power and pulling itself and various and sundry items on the workbench down into my lap. I like the big, 2-3 kg types better.

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TopicAuthorDate
DSO for cheap!            01/01/70 00:00      
   very good            01/01/70 00:00      
      Limitations            01/01/70 00:00      
         test results            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's valuable information            01/01/70 00:00      
         well, the fact is ..            01/01/70 00:00      
            tektronix 475 comparison            01/01/70 00:00      
               Really? Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
               another double post ... sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
   I think ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Application dependant            01/01/70 00:00      
         Indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's still too low a bandwidth, wouldn't you say?            01/01/70 00:00      
   just curious, Joe could you try            01/01/70 00:00      
      Unusual with short pulses for hobbyist projects            01/01/70 00:00      
         is the clock running?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sorry, but no I can't.            01/01/70 00:00      
      10nSec Pulse            01/01/70 00:00      
         "at random" means what exactly ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
               more observations            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It may not be the sample rate ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     digital vs analog            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Don't get me wrong, here ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           poor mans's scope            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Doesn't it depend on what THEY mean by bandwidth?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 20 nsec steps            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Well, one thing at a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Impulse Tests are better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       more capable scope            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I must have missed a step ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             TEK475            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                here's another alternative ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   DAC and pot in parallel?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Logically, not physically            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   new theory            01/01/70 00:00      
   3MHz is rather poor Bandwidth ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      ordinary            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ther are many params needed            01/01/70 00:00      
   "only" $200 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Low cost oscilloscopes            01/01/70 00:00      
         £291 > 2*($199)            01/01/70 00:00      
            It doesn't always work that way            01/01/70 00:00      
               Once upon a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   SDS8202            01/01/70 00:00      
      Read all the "fine print' first ... and ask any questions            01/01/70 00:00      
         bought it            01/01/70 00:00      
            Please let us know how this works out for you            01/01/70 00:00      
               datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                  2mV/div - but min trig level?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Tests            01/01/70 00:00      
                        24ns            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and that's the crux            01/01/70 00:00      
                              FPGA pulse Expander (edited)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 some love the mother, some love the daughter            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Here's omne fairly simple thing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 self calibtrate?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          glurk            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             DCMs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Well....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I don't know where you're going with this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             xxxxx            01/01/70 00:00      
                           333ps            01/01/70 00:00      
      SDS9302            01/01/70 00:00      
         So, how are you exercising this new 'scope?            01/01/70 00:00      
            so far so good            01/01/70 00:00      
               So far so good ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  rise time            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The rise time indicates that high frequencies gets dampened            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What does "bandwidth" mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        good test            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Perhaps you should repeat the test ...             01/01/70 00:00      

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