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06/22/06 15:00
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#118856 - Strong
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Kai Klaas said:

This could be the reason for the MOSFETs becoming hot.
Do the MOSFETs becoming hotter, when you omit the free wheeling diodes? Then, the internal body diode of MOSFET could be the reason. Become the free wheeling diodes warm?


I'm not using any additional "freewheel diodes" anymore, just MUR820's across source and drain of IRL (these do not get warm at all). If driving mosfets to full enhancement does not lower IRL temperature, then internal diodes would then be the cause. In that case I'll just have to live with the heat I guess.

Jon said:
Does this device look like it'll do the job?

http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Te...,68,69.pdf

Kai said:

Yes, but isn't it a bit strong? I would try some paralleled gates of CD4000 series to drive the MOSFETs.


If driving the fets harder proves to lower temp, then I will try these... looks like it would be a lower cost solution.

Kai said:

Take care, UGSmax of your IRL540 is +-10V. So, supply voltage of MOSFET driver should not exceed 7...8V. Then, you can even accept some negative going pulses at source pins of MOSFETs, where the sense resistors are connected to.

Kai


Yes, I will take care with supply of driver.

On a different note... I want to be able to change to change the Vref voltage to lower current when motor is sitting idle, without using a DAC or digital pot, is there any simple discrete methods of switching between two different voltages or resistances with 1 port pin?


Thanks

Jon




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TopicAuthorDate
Using L6506            01/01/70 00:00      
   Two sensing resistors            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oops...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
            internal vs external diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but depends            01/01/70 00:00      
   Still having problems with this.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Scope plots?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Plots and Diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
            On the scope plots...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't see photos at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's all I can see:            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ok, bad links... try this            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ahh, much better!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Some Explanation            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I guess I know what happens...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Explaination            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I guess.. I don't follow...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Switch mode            01/01/70 00:00      
         1.6 mH / Phase            01/01/70 00:00      
      Additional questions            01/01/70 00:00      
         Additional Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
            More decoupling needed            01/01/70 00:00      
         One more            01/01/70 00:00      
            5.1 zener            01/01/70 00:00      
         Two more            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE: Two more            01/01/70 00:00      
               They should stay rather cool            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Right now            01/01/70 00:00      
      I don't understand...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not Calculation... measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
            Peak versus DC?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Measurements            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What you see is not the motor current!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Rsense            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Pumping enery into inductance            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Current sensing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              3 amps/phase - unipolar config            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That would be the motor current            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I think your am-meter is not working cor            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Amps            01/01/70 00:00      
                              A scope plot would clear the situation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 set the scope to differential mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Shunt resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Parallel them            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Ok, but first            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Hmm...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Time constants            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Stepper Motor Datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Connecting mistake?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Take care with it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Sparks?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Protection earth            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Dual channel scope            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Power Supply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Have a nice lunch!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Another idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Scope plot            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     RE:yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               RE: Another Idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  It explains why your DC current is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Yes...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Same setup            01/01/70 00:00      
   Where is this coming from...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
   I can't !#$#@ believe it!            01/01/70 00:00      
      New Scope Plots            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ringing            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE:Ringing            01/01/70 00:00      
               save the trouble            01/01/70 00:00      
                  He already does!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Additionally            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, in HF boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Looks the same.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     5k + 2n and 10k+ 1n please            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Vsense Plots            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Aha!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              And...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Filtered Plots            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Sense of filtering            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 More Torque            01/01/70 00:00      
         Differential mode            01/01/70 00:00      
   Back at it again.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hmmm...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Free wheeling schemes            01/01/70 00:00      
         TVS value?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Surely not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not my marriage... my dad's            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Success with fishing on the weekend?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes... I did get to go            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Start with a 1.5KE6V8A            01/01/70 00:00      
                              No change with 1.5KE6V8A            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 No difference with other values            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Last hope...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Same motor - different drive            01/01/70 00:00      
   Plots of current system            01/01/70 00:00      
      More plots            01/01/70 00:00      
   By golly, we're making headway now            01/01/70 00:00      
      Need of free wheels            01/01/70 00:00      
         Looking Back and Forward            01/01/70 00:00      
            A bit strong...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Strong            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Didn't work :((            01/01/70 00:00      
                     As I recommended earlier...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Keep an exe on heat dissipation!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Only slight decrease in FET temp            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   You can switch both            01/01/70 00:00      

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