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03/24/10 10:18
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#174465 - Easy to get a customer to move to a competitor
Responding to: ???'s previous message
It is actually an interesting concept.

A hobbyist has little money, so they fight, and fight, and fight with their board.

For commercial operations, probably a significant percentage of chip manufacturers have gotten their chip dropped because the eval board (with the included documentation + code) had too bad quality.

It's a question of risk management. If it takes a week extra to get the evaluation board working, you don't want to find out how much unplanned time it takes to get the own product shipping. What if the datasheets also contains critical errors? The application engineers can't explain why the processor does one thing, while the documentation says it should do something else?

Good samples not only helps as a additional information when reading through all documentation for an UART. They also helps proving that the header file(s) aren't completely broken.

And when evaluating a new processor, it really isn't the UART you want to evaluate. Most probably it is some complex situation you worry about. Figuring out the true speed of the system with some form of simulated load. But you want to be able to directly start modeling this situation, instead of first having to get basic interrupt handlers etc to function.

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Whinge about Eval and Quickstart kits            01/01/70 00:00      
   Most time probably spent with other work tasks            01/01/70 00:00      
   while I basically agree, some comments            01/01/70 00:00      
      Missing the point (ed)            01/01/70 00:00      
      What I want..            01/01/70 00:00      
         What I want..            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's a non-starter ... What if I need 5.9908 MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
               re: What if I need 5.9908 MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I think Richard was being generic there...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Here's what I'd want ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Unfortunately agree            01/01/70 00:00      
      Proper documentation is part of the task            01/01/70 00:00      
         pedagogical            01/01/70 00:00      
         Fundamental problem with GUIs            01/01/70 00:00      
            GUI Settings Documentation            01/01/70 00:00      
               Screenshots            01/01/70 00:00      
   only today            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's the reason there's so much junk            01/01/70 00:00      
   as the little girl pointed out...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Previously, on 8052.com...            01/01/70 00:00      
   who's evaluating who?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Changing the installation location.            01/01/70 00:00      
      filenames with spaces in it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
         Bizarre bugs.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Spaces            01/01/70 00:00      
         "My Documents" directory            01/01/70 00:00      
            May and may...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Xilinx            01/01/70 00:00      
      Or, perhaps worse, none ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   What is the purpose?            01/01/70 00:00      
      The way I see it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Disagree (mostly)            01/01/70 00:00      
            well            01/01/70 00:00      
               quite so            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Easy to get a customer to move to a competitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The problem stems from...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Misses in communication and assumptions alas common            01/01/70 00:00      
                           'first demo' to a customer ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That's because            01/01/70 00:00      
               not only that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         see above ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I've looked at a lot of "eval" boards ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         app notes            01/01/70 00:00      
            a CD with their demo boards            01/01/70 00:00      
            what good would that do?            01/01/70 00:00      
               mark this on your calendar ... Erik and I agree!            01/01/70 00:00      
               project files            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  run != tested            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's exactly the wrong attitude            01/01/70 00:00      
                     wrong or not, makes sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                        But            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What goes around comes around            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I think something got lost            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes MANUFACTURERS            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Per, I do not disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    no synergy?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       au contraire            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the key is in UNDERSTANDING the example            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    deviate vs derivative            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       SILabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          deviates            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Portable within company portfolio            01/01/70 00:00      
   Devkits            01/01/70 00:00      

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