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09/21/10 07:11
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 		 #178615 - Yes these heaters need Soft start
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hello Prof. Kai Klass,

Kai Klaas said:
The heater is blowing, but not the electronics??

Is the heater overheating because the electronics does not turn-off the heater after reaching the end temperature??

That is true, the Controller or its components are NOT damaged but the heater coil becomes open circuit. And the controller gives 30% of the Mains Voltage to the Heater. This is measured and verified.


Kai Klaas said:
Does the heater need a soft start, when totally cold??
Yes, after reading so many reviews in this thread, I think these heaters and the system does need a Soft Start.

Kai Klaas said:
Do you really need a phase angle control?? Isn't this overkill due to the large thermal inertia??
Soft Start,or NOT, I need to control the voltage and the current to the heater. At present I do not have current feedback in this system, I believe, I need to add this.

Thanks Prof. Kai Klass for your valuable information.


List of 41 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
What is the reason for Heater blowing.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hof often/how we?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more information...            01/01/70 00:00      
   continuous rating            01/01/70 00:00      
      This could be the reason...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Way too much current...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more information required...            01/01/70 00:00      
   do you have hysteresis in your control?            01/01/70 00:00      
      No there is no hysteresis.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Four pulses?            01/01/70 00:00      
            The Heaters are failing, electronics is OK.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Why Pulses?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I will do just that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Processor must know about zero-crossings            01/01/70 00:00      
               ??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  soft start            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Soft Start            01/01/70 00:00      
                        an easy and interesting check            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Soft start, again...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes these heaters need Soft start            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Again: Power? Voltage? Current?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Avoid driving gate all the way to next zero crossing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Crest factor/power factor correction            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Phase angle control...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I agree with you.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Good luck!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           are all heating coils the same ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           There You Go            01/01/70 00:00      
         re the possible need for hysteresis            01/01/70 00:00      
         Power? Voltage? Current?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Alternate Heating Control Algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more clarification...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Voltage - or power? [ed]            01/01/70 00:00      
   The other controllers            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks All members.            01/01/70 00:00      
   just suggest..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Reply to JecksonS Ben            01/01/70 00:00      
         Good point!            01/01/70 00:00      
            supposed to            01/01/70 00:00      
         opto isolated triac            01/01/70 00:00      
   My solution            01/01/70 00:00      

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