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09/19/10 13:29
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#178591 - Alternate Heating Control Algorithm
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Use zero crossing totally for the heating control and then establish a period of control that corresponds to 16 AC cycles. Apply the ON control to the heater for a greater or lesser number of cycles out of the 16 to control the amount of heat.

In the past I've used a linear control where error difference was mapped in linear manner from the 0 to 16 AC cycles per control period. (That was in an analog control circuit in the days before microcontroller controls).

More recently we worked on a heater system of another device where the error signal became the index to a lookup table with 16 entries. The 0 -> 15 index looked up a number of AC cycles to apply for that period. The table permitted the error mapping to cycles to be non-linear so that large error could use more aggressive heating whilst the lower error could be less aggressive. (MCUs with a zero crossing interrupt permit this type of control to be easily implemented via a simple state machine).

Slow, approximately quarter second, control periods work for most heater control applications because the thermal time constant is much longer than this amount. Depending on the type of temp sensor used there may even be an additional time constant imposed by that.

Michael Karas


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TopicAuthorDate
What is the reason for Heater blowing.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hof often/how we?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more information...            01/01/70 00:00      
   continuous rating            01/01/70 00:00      
      This could be the reason...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Way too much current...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more information required...            01/01/70 00:00      
   do you have hysteresis in your control?            01/01/70 00:00      
      No there is no hysteresis.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Four pulses?            01/01/70 00:00      
            The Heaters are failing, electronics is OK.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Why Pulses?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I will do just that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Processor must know about zero-crossings            01/01/70 00:00      
               ??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  soft start            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Soft Start            01/01/70 00:00      
                        an easy and interesting check            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Soft start, again...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes these heaters need Soft start            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Again: Power? Voltage? Current?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Avoid driving gate all the way to next zero crossing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Crest factor/power factor correction            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Phase angle control...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I agree with you.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Good luck!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           are all heating coils the same ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           There You Go            01/01/70 00:00      
         re the possible need for hysteresis            01/01/70 00:00      
         Power? Voltage? Current?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Alternate Heating Control Algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some more clarification...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Voltage - or power? [ed]            01/01/70 00:00      
   The other controllers            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks All members.            01/01/70 00:00      
   just suggest..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Reply to JecksonS Ben            01/01/70 00:00      
         Good point!            01/01/70 00:00      
            supposed to            01/01/70 00:00      
         opto isolated triac            01/01/70 00:00      
   My solution            01/01/70 00:00      

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