Email: Password: Remember Me | Create Account (Free)

Back to Subject List

Old thread has been locked -- no new posts accepted in this thread
???
09/23/09 20:37
Read: times


 
Msg Score: +1
 +1 Informative		 #169086 - Illogical!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Chris Bertrand said:
When I first started this job, I clearly had stated that I am not a programmer

But your online CV (resume) says that programming is one of your "Key Skills"
KEY SKILLS
Proficient with engineering programs:

Schematics Capture Software Orcad, Multisim, PSPICE Printed Circuit Board Software Ultiboard, PCAD, Specctra, Protel, PADS, IsoPro, Accel
Tango Debugging Tools and Software MetaLink, Keil, OllyDbg Touch Screen Programming Crestron VisionPro, SIMPL, Viewport HTML Coding /Software D
reamweaver, Flash, SharePoint CAD Tooling AutoCAD, Chief Architect 3DExperienced in programming languages:

Programming / System Languages Visual Basic, C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, Fortran, PHP, HTML, MySQL Forth

http://www.kittmaster.com/resume.htm



Chris Bertrand said:
My observations are from the many threads that I read, in silence, and watched the people get destroyed for not searching and RTFM

Who has been "destroyed"?

As already noted, people only get "didn't search first" or "RTFM" when it is blatantly obvious that they have not made any effort of their own to research their problem - there is nothing there to destroy!

Then this thread occurs, I offer my opinion, and now I get stepped on

No, you are not getting "stepped on". This is a discussion forum and people are discussing the points that you have made.
It's just that the majority of conributors disagree with you - which might suggest something...?

why because it makes them feel better?

No - because your arguments do not fit the evidence as they observe it!

this just proves my point every time someone comes after me.

No, people are not "coming after you": people are looking at the statements you make, looking at the evidence, and concluding that the evidence does not support your arguments.


Take a look at this thread: http://www.8052.com/forumchat/read/168101
There is a very lively debate, but that doesn't mean anyone is "stepping on" or "coming after" anyone else - does it?

List of 132 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Slowing down            01/01/70 00:00      
   Its because...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Never been a problem before            01/01/70 00:00      
         How many Questions can be asked?            01/01/70 00:00      
            This is why we need to diversify            01/01/70 00:00      
               Share all your embarassing illnesses            01/01/70 00:00      
                  poetry corner            01/01/70 00:00      
               diversification            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OK            01/01/70 00:00      
   I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
      Slow down?            01/01/70 00:00      
         School affects processor of choice for projects            01/01/70 00:00      
   Just wait another week or two ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
      Atmel AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
      Aye, ... there's the rub ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         ARM competes with both 8-bit, 16-bit and 32-bit competitors            01/01/70 00:00      
            gcc isn't bad, but it doesn't match the code quality            01/01/70 00:00      
               gcc may catch up            01/01/70 00:00      
                  being unhappy with gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
                     They have different roots            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's all about cost            01/01/70 00:00      
               Diversity            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The jury is still out ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Everyones needs are different            01/01/70 00:00      
                        You can't "test" it that way            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Still, majority of embedded systems are small            01/01/70 00:00      
                              An evaluation board with a gazillion features are of no use            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's not a replacement for the target            01/01/70 00:00      
                           none, but few care            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Compare its cost ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Assuming that matters            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Eval Board Cost irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not likely, but possible            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That's not why I use 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Then make one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          and look at the cost!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             what cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Free!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Can only confirm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Sometimes it gives you insight            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Relations with distributors may affect freebies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Perhaps, and because ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               and so what            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  and so, I didn't take it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Insight            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            it reflects the manufacturer's attitude about his customer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Just try to get one when you NEED it!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It's the platform ... not just the target.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        and '51s            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe all the brow beatings......            01/01/70 00:00      
      There are simple reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
         How to get good answers - Ask Questions The Smart Way            01/01/70 00:00      
      Which that attitude chris            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks for proving my point for me            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not so fast, Chris ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Verbally beating them up is the only option.            01/01/70 00:00      
               You must be joking            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nobody "lumped you in" ... except you            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Again you are wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
                        If you hadn't demonstrated your unwillingness to search            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A forum is not a tutorial            01/01/70 00:00      
            I didn't get where I am today...            01/01/70 00:00      
               You have good points, but think about this...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Kids; homework            01/01/70 00:00      
            ASKING for help            01/01/70 00:00      
               Interesting but I must disagree.... to a point            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Examples?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     many moons ago before I worked were I do now            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Well, the reason you're "getting it" from me ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's not a default response!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     i don't disagree.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        code of how to post a question            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I get it....seriously            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Arguments doesn't add up with real world            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Per, its not about the logic.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh yes you did!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Illogical!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Its a resume.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Key Skills            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             My view            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Key skills...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                decline in 8052.com traffic...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              not really 'grammar'            01/01/70 00:00      
      with Google, its difficult to wade through the material            01/01/70 00:00      
         I agree, but seriously.....            01/01/70 00:00      
            If it's overwhelming, you need to find another pursuit.            01/01/70 00:00      
               I really don't know what your problem is            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You haven't improved your syntax ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     thanks for the chuckle            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I've been a teacher of English since 1952 when I learned it            01/01/70 00:00      
                           You aren't my father or teacher            01/01/70 00:00      
                              pray tell which dictionary has this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 it doesn't            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It seems as though the only one who's "uptight" is you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              To (sic) bad            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 And this is the petty stuff I'm talking about Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    this is almost hilarious            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       bravo Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          high standards???            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You knew            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I have no problem ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Guess this must be the only site you frequent            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Incorrect            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      very well, thank you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      two wrongs does not make a right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Well,            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Yes, but a.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Goodness! You said you were done ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not for you to worry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          There's another syntax error!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Your pathetic            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                was that deliberate...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   He's not that clever ... nor is he that well-versed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Speak for yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Another syntax error!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again and again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    If you think that's "petty"...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Apples and Oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          All apples, to me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Whatever works for you I guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                all my programs are 0 warnings, 0 errors.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Well I guess if it runs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      err            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         fixed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Mud throwing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You were defeated before you began, Chris            01/01/70 00:00      
            Missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
               seconded            01/01/70 00:00      
            coming to think of it 'how' and 'what'            01/01/70 00:00      
   "How it's made"            01/01/70 00:00      

Back to Subject List