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01/24/08 23:23
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#149935 - this was the point I tried to make
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
I am sure that Java has it's place, but not in the mainstream or as the primary programming language.

This was the point I tried to make. And that there are valid arguments why to chose Java or some else non-mainstream language or environment of any kind; or, for that matter, derivative.

Erik Malund said:
Of course, as this thread show, that will happen some day.

I don't think so. The '51 together with other 8-bitters already appear to have lost the appeal as a general purpose processor and/or controller for demanding applications, such as the multimedia&co are - while those are the primary targets for Java (side by side with smartcards, which is rather a surprise for me; but maybe THAT is the environment where portability is really an issue, enabling to move to the vendor providing cheaper card in that particular moment of time).

So, '51 remaining THE microcontroller, asm&C will remain the mainstream until the very last day of '51. Yes, they will need us, and the '51 will die with the last of us... :-)

And I might be wrong, as usually...


I said:
There is at least one '51 derivative (plus the needed "cloud") supporting it [Java], and I suspect there are more.
Erik said:
just for kicks, could you provide a link.

Sure. ;-)

Jan Waclawek



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TopicAuthorDate
finally somebody said it...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Its not actualy the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   well why don't they ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   They are not equivalent            01/01/70 00:00      
      To some extent            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dewar not in this universe            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possibly            01/01/70 00:00      
            wow, things have changed            01/01/70 00:00      
               And not for the better            01/01/70 00:00      
                  a correlation to Davids arguments            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What's wrong with Java on '51?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the more portability the more you pay            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Hehe            01/01/70 00:00      
                              naah            01/01/70 00:00      
                              from all my Lunux experience straightly follows...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 not a flame, just some thoughts as to why            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Not a flame either, just some facts            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Jeff, why did you bypass the original issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I didn't            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             is that what you clean between the teeth with?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                FOSS            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not as much 'share' as market            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Applications            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   the two above, Carig/Jeff ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yes, they'll ask questions like ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Power-Point Platform            01/01/70 00:00      
                           this was the point I tried to make            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't despair            01/01/70 00:00      
   Fully Agree With Eric and that guy            01/01/70 00:00      
      a correlation to Eskos post            01/01/70 00:00      
      Poor education all across the board            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is basic IT education needed ?            01/01/70 00:00      

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