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08/04/09 22:14
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#168162 - You are absolutely right...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy said:
Shouldn't the capacitor be in parallel with the resistor?

Yes, that's the scheme I usually use. The advantage of your scheme is, that the electrolytic cap has only to withstand a reduced voltage and can be kept considerably smaller.

The scheme from Erik has the advantage, that the RC combination additionally works as a low pass filter reducing the supply current and corresponding ground return current running across the board.

Unfortunately, this current saving scheme makes only sense if the series resistance of relay is rather high, otherwise the cap becomes huge. An example: A typical 10A/250VAC 5V relay with series resistance of 47 Ohm like the Omron's G2R shall be used. To keep the relay turned on the voltage should not fall below 2.5V. So, the current limiting resistor becomes also 47 Ohm. Providing a time constant of minimum 100msec results in a cap of >4200µF!

This scheme is useful, though, when polarized relays are used with a rated voltage of 12V or even 24V.

Kai



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Mechnical Relay or Triac            01/01/70 00:00      
   Relays Or Triacs            01/01/70 00:00      
      Isolation            01/01/70 00:00      
      Relay or Triac            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pull-in vs hold current?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Relays Suggestions            01/01/70 00:00      
      Agree            01/01/70 00:00      
         optotriac            01/01/70 00:00      
            Relay Vs Triac            01/01/70 00:00      
               multimeter is reading 'hold' current?            01/01/70 00:00      
               a simple "kick and hold" circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
                  RE: a simple "kick and hold" circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                     no            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I see!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You are absolutely right...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What are the values of R and C ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     To be calculated!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     About...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Here are some calculations ..might be helpful            01/01/70 00:00      
                  RE: some calculations            01/01/70 00:00      
                     To Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        current measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Re-Drawn Schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ASCII Art            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Relay supply            01/01/70 00:00      
                  To Kiran            01/01/70 00:00      
               latching relay            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Latching relays are cost effective            01/01/70 00:00      
                     One thing to consider            01/01/70 00:00      
                        latching relay : status updated on bootup            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Ay be a mix will be fine            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I just found a relay which needs lot lesser current            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's too late!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              My Circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But didn't you mention...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    hot... depends            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Agreed!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Thanks ALL.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Low voltage drop            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Good luck!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              random phase?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 The same what the manufacturer meant...            01/01/70 00:00      

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