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01/24/06 20:59
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#108225 - Reliability and manageability
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Kevin Timm said:
but we have a commercial environment running linux (SLES 9). There are > 20 machines, all running oracle/java/apache/visibroker (corba) and our own application utilizing those items.

These machines run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year and have been doing so for 2+ years, WITHOUT interruption. It's a transactional messaging system that is utilized 24 hours a day (not just 9-5). We house these machines in a hosting facility and we promise 5 9's reliability. That's 5 minutes downtime per year. And we have no problem meeting that SLA.

So, if you want machines that work and work all them time without any trouble at all, linux is a fantastic idea.

Oh, one more thing: these machines replaced HP boxes (running HP-UX). Not because they were more reliable (that part was equal) but because we saw an order of magnitude performance improvement and hardware/software/maintenance costs 75% less than HP.

You are definitely on to something here. In an enterprise IT environment, reliability is extremely important. And it has to be achieved without breaking the bank. I don't think that either Windows or Linux is just "generally more suited" to today's IT landscape; each offers its own distinct pros and cons, and selecting the appropriate solution needs to be done on a case by case basis. In your case it was Linux. That's absolutely fine. It's also possible you might have chosen a modern version of Windows and been successful as well. But if you were using Windows 98, I bet you would have had some real issues living up to to your SLA.

Another important issue is manageability. When large numbers of machines are present, auotmation of administration can really cut labor costs, improve support, and generally enhance the end user experience. With the right planning, nowadays you can plug a new machine into the network and go home. By the time you return in the morning, it will have booted over the network to a Windows installer, installed Windows with the appropriate drivers, installed all software appropriate for the machine (based on departmental association, etc), fully patched itself, and will have received all the appropriate customizations (restrictions, etc.). Anyone boasting the excellence of Windows 9x, or even its adequacy, has probably never been charged with managing a large network. This kind of functionality just didn't exist in that era. Modern versions of Windows contain a lot of technologies that make this scenario possible.

Sure, people have been deploying disk images over the network for years, but that becomes a huge hassle when different images must be developed for different departments or the underlying hardware changes.

--Sasha Jevtic

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TopicAuthorDate
better software my bum!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Well, when i say windows 98            01/01/70 00:00      
   Linux            01/01/70 00:00      
   Now there's an idea            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not just look and feel            01/01/70 00:00      
   Windows 98 is a sad excuse for an OS            01/01/70 00:00      
      '98 is the last that will run true DOS.            01/01/70 00:00      
         That old Chestnut            01/01/70 00:00      
            We managed            01/01/70 00:00      
               Did, and still do            01/01/70 00:00      
                  i have an old clunker running '98 sittin            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Old Clunkers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not to start anything            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not to finish anything either,            01/01/70 00:00      
                        the missed issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                        given            01/01/70 00:00      
                           When the missed issue had not bee            01/01/70 00:00      
                              no, it was interjected            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That may be, but who sent you Keil, Code            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       agreed, but what if "the tool" can not d            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Keil runs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             oh, well, maybe bad example.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Open software            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             uVision3 for ARM on Linux            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Nice            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Load Meter            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      WHAT            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Not never            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Crashes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      gkrellm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Reliability and manageability            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SECURITY is the issue.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           UNIX or Windows?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Times change            01/01/70 00:00      
      Irony            01/01/70 00:00      
         The Windows NT GUI            01/01/70 00:00      
      The point is            01/01/70 00:00      
         Architectually ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Lindows anyone?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Worms            01/01/70 00:00      
      and the moon is made of ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Threats to Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
      Special Linux apps            01/01/70 00:00      
         con you put that in a post            01/01/70 00:00      
            Too big            01/01/70 00:00      
         Special Linux Apps            01/01/70 00:00      
            A small count OS will typically only hav            01/01/70 00:00      
               Counting            01/01/70 00:00      
            8052 simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
               disassembler            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Linux Disassembler            01/01/70 00:00      
   what a kerfuffle :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Transfer is the worst            01/01/70 00:00      
      Transfer            01/01/70 00:00      

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