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#107226 - Answers Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Farshid said:
Non-Inverting Input resistance of AD844 is specified at 7M ohm min. and 10M ohm typical ,Problem here that you are talking about should be that we are supplying this 10M ohm input by a High Impedance signal ? For your application you need a circuit providing a much higher input impedance than this. This can only deliver a FET-input. 7...10MOhm is a much too low load impedance, when being connected to the probe. Especially, if you take the relevant temperature dependency of input impedance into consideration. Farshid said:
In the Bitscope website a JFET buffer has been used. I remember that the author said A very High impedance input(~10^12 M ohm) OP-Amp have to be used after this JFET buffer since they are not good at providing enough output current. This is the circuit used by bitscope: http://www.bitscope.com/design/ha...Bs11-5.PDF This circuit is a simple Source-follower with a current source as source resistance. Source drain current is about 5mA, guaranteeing a rather low output impedance (in the 100Ohm range). So, a load impedance of 1MOhm at the FET-buffer output would only result in a gain error of less than 0.1%, which is totally negligible for a scope application. So, the AD844 is well suited to buffer the FET-buffer. Farshid said:
My hesitate about using the FET input buffers is because they may need a lot of knowledge to design and their performance may degrade drastically over the time and temperature range. What do say about these problem ? There are not many circuits being simpler that this Source-follower! Again, this circuit presents no gain but 1, so what would you expect to degrade? No, this circuit is highly stable and is widely used in all sectors of electronics. It benefits from the brilliant HF performance of FET. Farshid said:
So yo mean, we divide the input signal So we would try to have not more than 0.5 Vp-p at the first Op-Amp's input ? Yes. Farshid said:
This should give us these Voltage swings at input :
+/- 50mv (at max x20 gain) ,+/- 100mv, +/- 250mv, +/- 250mv, +/-500mv, +/-1v, +/-2.5v, +/-5v, +/-10v, +/-25v (at Gain X 2/50 I designed the following: 5V (=50V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :100 x2 :5 x10 2V (=20V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :100 x2 :2 x10 1V (=10V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :100 x2 :1 x10 0.5V (=5V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :10 x2 :5 x10 0.2V (=2V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :10 x2 :2 x10 0.1V (=1V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :10 x2 :1 x10 0.05V (=0.5V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :1 x2 :5 x10 0.02V (=0.2V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :1 x2 :2 x10 0.01V (=0.1V total screen = 2Vpp at input of ADC) - :1 x2 :1 x10 In combination with a 1:1/10:1 probe you can handle an input voltage range of up to 500V. More tomorrow. Kai |