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03/06/12 22:41
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 		 #186458 - Z8051 USB On-Chip Debugger (OCD)
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan Waclawek said:

Jim Granville said:
What IS missing from Zilog, is a low cost Debug Connection 'dongle'.

Without that it's all quite worthless - programming and debugging goes through the same I2C port.


The OCD software looks reasonable, see
http://abov.co.kr/eng/tool/ocd.php
and
http://abov.co.kr/data/mds/OCD_Manual.pdf

Under Variable Watch, it says a rather cryptic
"This menu is not enabled during emulation." ?!
- I think perhaps that really means 'does not update while running', but does refresh at each step/break ?

Going by other images, it seems there is a USB-OCD unit, using a DB25 shell, but with USB connector.
I guess that comes with the $120 / $156 Devel options from Digikey,but not separately ?

Zilog says this :
[" Development Tool Kit: Z51F3220 MCU Development Kit (Z51F3220000ZCO)
Kit Contents
* Z51F3220 Development Board
* Z8051 USB On-Chip Debugger (OCD)
* Z8051 OCD Target Cable (10ckt)
* USB Cable: A (male) to Mini-B Cable
* Z8051 OCD Software and Documentation CDROM
* Z51F3220 MCU Development Kit User Manual (UM0243)
"]

So it does sound standard USB-10p stuff.
They just need a separate order item for
* Z8051 USB On-Chip Debugger (OCD)
* Z8051 OCD Target Cable (10ckt)
* USB Cable: A (male) to Mini-B Cable
* Z8051 OCD Software and Documentation CDROM

Digikey ways end March and $99/$156, whilst Mouser says no dates but 3 on order (brave lads!) and $49.95/$99

The Mouser prices are much better...
$49.95 gives Z51F0811000KITG Kit Contents
* Z51F0811 Evaluation Board
* Z8051 USB On-Chip Debugger (OCD)
* Z8051 OCD Target Cable (10ckt)
* USB Cable: A (male) to Mini-B Cable
* Z8051 OCD Software and Documentation CDROM
* Z51F0811 MCU Evaluation Kit User Manual (UM0242)
Not as cheap as Silabs Toolstick, but tolerable.

I'll try the SW and report back... :

Installs OK, but lacks a Simulate mode, and disables most menus with no HW sensed.
Files/names suggest it could use a Cypress FX2, which would give a good bandwidth.
Not clear how symbols are managed, I can see no mention of OMF51 load, but you can manually define watch-vars.





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TopicAuthorDate
Zilog goes 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Z8051 - wow            01/01/70 00:00      
      Ahh.... Re-badged ABOV            01/01/70 00:00      
         ABOV->Zilog... interesting....            01/01/70 00:00      
            I think that            01/01/70 00:00      
               die size for 5V vs 3V            01/01/70 00:00      
                  verbal            01/01/70 00:00      
               The devil is in the details            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Core size            01/01/70 00:00      
   and Silabs goes Cortex-M3...            01/01/70 00:00      
      better links            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some price updates, Infineon / Silabs            01/01/70 00:00      
      SiLabs M3            01/01/70 00:00      
      SiLabs 32-bit M3            01/01/70 00:00      
         how do you react            01/01/70 00:00      
            New improved recipe            01/01/70 00:00      
         Digikey gives a set of links            01/01/70 00:00      
            SiLabs ARM debug            01/01/70 00:00      
               JTAG and JTAG            01/01/70 00:00      
                  already answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ah, that's fine then.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The devil is in the details            01/01/70 00:00      
                        overthinking this            01/01/70 00:00      
         EC-2 or EC-3 won't work            01/01/70 00:00      
            yes, they will            01/01/70 00:00      
               that's what I meant            01/01/70 00:00      
   Prices are up at Digikey            01/01/70 00:00      
      when listing prices            01/01/70 00:00      
         Prices            01/01/70 00:00      
            ah, missed that            01/01/70 00:00      
               The Price You Pay            01/01/70 00:00      
      those prices sound interesting too...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Packages, New variants            01/01/70 00:00      
            DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
               Z8051 USB On-Chip Debugger (OCD)            01/01/70 00:00      
               There are fairly cheap adapters that will work            01/01/70 00:00      
                  beware?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don't know what sort of adapters you mean, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                        well, since the discussion was about ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I understand why you wonder, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              who cares            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Certainly not you, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    just blame yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Sorry about the confusion, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          But not obvious in linear mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             So my question....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Because it is cronological?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I agree ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Doesn't that make more sense?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Questioning personal preferences?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You're allowed your preference, of course ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Failure of tree view            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               some like the mother, some like the daughter            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  Erik's right ... the previous post could be linked or quoted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     not what I said            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I didn't misquote you ... I loosely paraphrased            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           Still mising amounts of clicks in tree view to see posts            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              Thanks for the tip about a flat list            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           pray tell, when it is not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              When it is not what?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 bending neon            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    Here's your answer ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                       yes, it is            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                          Quotes often very valuable            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               I did notice            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  Actually explaining the alternative side of the coin            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     The tree view does something handy as well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        You can do it your way,,            01/01/70 00:00      

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