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03/05/12 03:01
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#186420 - overthinking this
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jim Granville said:
Erik Malund said:

the dongle is the same, the cable from dongle to device (board) is different.


Are you sure about that ?

That implies SiLabs are making a twisted-lead cable, which makes little sense in production. Too Labour intensive.
Most suppliers would do that shuffle on the PCB.

That means the Debug units would not be identical, but can be 'crossed over', with special crossed cables / headers.

This needs a reply from someone who has _actually_ connected an older SiLabs Debug dongle, to a M3, and vice versa.
Seems Silabs are confused here too..

Given the PITA of making crossed cables, this is probably easiest solved with a tiny paddle board, IDC-in to Female-out, that shuffles as needed.

It also is more obvious than a crossed cable.


Ummm, what's all this nonsense about crossed cables and paddle boards?

If you're designing a PCB for your product, simply install on your board whatever connector mates with the dongle's cable.

No need to over-think this!

-a

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