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08/29/11 09:25
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 		 #183514 - Sounds brilliant!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan Waclawek said:
... wide supply voltage (2.4V-5.5V), feature the UART bootloader we were used to with the 'RD2-s, feature on-chip debug in the 44-pin packages, and.... drumroll... come also in the "biblical" DIP40 package


Sounds brilliant: full backwards compatibility & "hobbyist-friendly" (5V; DIP) plus modern features (UART IAP; on-chip debug; on-chip EEPROM; hardware SPI, I2C, etc)

If they're smart, they'll do a little module to give you access to the on-chip debug when plugging into a DIP-40 site.
If they don't do it, it'll be easy enough to DIY...

I bet Atmel has samples already available for those who plan to buy these chips by buckets

IF they're smart, maybe they can learn something from their AVR division, which seems to have done pretty well out of being hobbyist-friendly - ie, they'll make them easily available in small quantities...


List of 76 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
AT89LP51xD2 ... coming?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Sounds brilliant!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Was it AVR who made low-quantity available? Or just spin-off            01/01/70 00:00      
         Probably true            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hobbyists and students are really important            01/01/70 00:00      
               Also...            01/01/70 00:00      
         That wasn't the only thing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Assembler            01/01/70 00:00      
               'LP simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Good            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No ... I doubt he means that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               That may have been the case, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               While that may be the case ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Never used C - planned to but had to settle for half memsize            01/01/70 00:00      
                     See ... 'C' can make the memory requirement greater            01/01/70 00:00      
                        But it ain't *necessarily* so            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, that's a valid basis for the choice of 'C'            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Just don't kick in open doors            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Again, you may be totally correct about that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sure, and so friggin what if ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           well ... that's not exactly what I did ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      On chip debug            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why unlikely?            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's true.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, that's what I meant!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Missed the point!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ah, sorry.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Single Clocker LP Chips From Atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
   Samples            01/01/70 00:00      
      Samples            01/01/70 00:00      
         Samples            01/01/70 00:00      
            Samples Not...            01/01/70 00:00      
               they are good at that            01/01/70 00:00      
               Atmel says...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Samples Yes!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nothing here yet            01/01/70 00:00      
                     you are not in the US            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No excuse!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Envelope?            01/01/70 00:00      
                      ... "coming" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yet another missed opportunity.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Sorry thought this thread closed ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Now maybe you guys will see why I don't use 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                              hard to tell, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 They're thrashing about, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    why the sigh ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Probably not ... but you never know ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    datasheets            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I'm glad they're there ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Sad, but true.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Too much "designers"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                it's that old bugaboo ... appearance over substance ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I'd say            01/01/70 00:00      
                           "The part will only be available in about 3 weeks"            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I've heard/read that comment from them before ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Common with delays for new chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Quite so!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I have to remind the public-at-risk            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          There's a purpose ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I agree with Per !!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Not so, but it probably applies to every one of ATMEL's            01/01/70 00:00      
                           samples            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I tested...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 The AT89LP4052 works very well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Looks good, so far, eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       A typical op            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          singleclockers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          impressive            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I will wait and see.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Transistors are cheap            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I can't find that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Sorry. I thought it was unlikely.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                copy/paste            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Have you received those samples, Andy?            01/01/70 00:00      

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