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10/24/09 16:01
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#170038 - ...or he could wire-wrap it in an hour or two.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
When I build one-off projects I see no benefit in involving the errors and sloppiness of PCB houses with their drug-addled and alcohol-impaired employees. If I need a circuit, I put the components in place on one of my wire-wrap boards, which, incidentally, have nearly ideal Vcc and Gnd connection capabilities ... none of this "strip" stuff that makes for meter-long Vcc and Gnd chains on a 10 cm x 15 cm board.

Even though I'm well into my sixties, and require one pair of glasses so I can look for the "right" pair, I can still place about one wire per second once underway, since I can still remember which pins go where having once looked at the schematic of what I'm fabricating. If there are 50-60 IC's, things slow down a bit, but with a small circuit, I do it from memory. Seldom do I have to do a major rework because I lost my way ... It has happened, but not lately.

A simple 805x application, using PLCC or DIL-40 packaged MCU would fit right away, and, with an adapter of the sort shown earlier in this thread, TQFP fits quite comfortably. I use an 805x and a CPLD in PLCC-84, and whatever external memory or other IC's I require, and the whole wiring task takes an hour or two.

It would take that long to interact with the PCB house just to get the first run started. Then, if I'm happy with the circuit and do have to deliver several copies, a PCB of the approved circuit can be ordered ... but only if necessary, and only if approved.

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List of 57 messages in thread
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Developing with TQFP            01/01/70 00:00      
   Prototyping            01/01/70 00:00      
      SMD Prototyping boards            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   FYI: Prototyping            01/01/70 00:00      
   warning            01/01/70 00:00      
   Prototyping Ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
      Adaptors for stripboard            01/01/70 00:00      
         What do you suppose he means by that?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry - I explain...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Better approach            01/01/70 00:00      
                  lash up a simple PCB in the lab            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ...or he could wire-wrap it in an hour or two.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Why so much hate?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It's not the generation!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Still more hate (or fear) even if you don't realize it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Where you sit determines what you see            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Still extrapolating            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Horsefeathers!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          No need for insinuation.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Enforcement isn't my job.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          different != bad            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             in my eyes too            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                re: in my eyes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You'll see what you want to see, I guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Trolls            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Was Steve talking about an external PCB house?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Maybe Richard too            01/01/70 00:00      
                              No in-house staff of druggies here            01/01/70 00:00      
                           YEp            01/01/70 00:00      
               I thought these were well-known & widely used terms.            01/01/70 00:00      
   To Joel, somewhat related            01/01/70 00:00      
   schmartboard            01/01/70 00:00      
      Am I missing something here?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Schmartboad...            01/01/70 00:00      
            yes...easy to solder            01/01/70 00:00      
               No soldering?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No, not at all...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Have you used it yourself?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Packages            01/01/70 00:00      
                           oops!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Most adapters present problems, too.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              bypassing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 could possibly be improved            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No, I haven't...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     seems fun            01/01/70 00:00      
                     shmata board            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Must target schools and entry to medium-level hobbyists            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I've used similar products, and they do serve a purpose.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Always hard to aim for the correct customer group            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 How?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Lots of SMD pads on the other side            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not a bad idea ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          My view            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             ... not the adapter, but the wire-wrap board ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RH            01/01/70 00:00      
                           80%?            01/01/70 00:00      

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