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08/04/10 20:12
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 		 #177673 - Design
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Michael Karas said:
There are two things that I have found to be an essential requirement for any project however.

1) Oscilloscope.

2) Design.

And the Design must include consideration of what diagnostic/debug/monitoring facilities will be provided - like testpoints, a UART for debug output, some "spare" IOs, some "spare" memory (eg, for logging).

Someone I knew once said, "If you don't have enough resources to allocate 10% for debug/diagnostics, then you don't have enough resources"
(in that context, "resources" includes MIPS, memory, IO pins, etc, etc...)

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time and money            01/01/70 00:00      
   My take.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not obvious that an ICE is faster to use than print            01/01/70 00:00      
         I recall a comment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Good to look at available hw early on in project            01/01/70 00:00      
               I'd love to dump the values from the ADC channels ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Always a question of making most use of what you got            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Where there's a will ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ... there's a way.            01/01/70 00:00      
   investing in good tools            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cost benefit insanity            01/01/70 00:00      
         "We will save money ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         costs, one-time and repeated            01/01/70 00:00      
            VMware may be an alternative            01/01/70 00:00      
            subversion server            01/01/70 00:00      
               time is money            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A price estimate            01/01/70 00:00      
                     svn cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I most often _am_ the IT support            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Then that's the major difference            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Don't you think I try to avoid it too?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        re: svn cost estimate            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Cost for single user            01/01/70 00:00      
                              RE: I'd hope to do it in less than one hour.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 True, back to time and money though            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Investment            01/01/70 00:00      
                  revision control when money is scarce and volume is small            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Far too infrequent!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Directory copies not really fun for version control            01/01/70 00:00      
                        no, I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                           VCS on your own            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ditto that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Further...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     So inadequate            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that's no difference            01/01/70 00:00      
                  svn benefits            01/01/70 00:00      
                     why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Working files, released files, change logs            01/01/70 00:00      
                           a comment on 'revision control' and such            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If a new version does not work find out why            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 the basic premise of my post was ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Thats a good point, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Let a pro have good tools - don't worry about fools            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Revert safety net            01/01/70 00:00      
         Budget Insanity            01/01/70 00:00      
            Dilbert            01/01/70 00:00      
   Right Tools            01/01/70 00:00      
      Well, I'm with you there ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Design            01/01/70 00:00      
   For "professionals" this is good advice, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      This is exactly what I've been harping on ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not "forcing"            01/01/70 00:00      
      You missed Erik's point            01/01/70 00:00      
      you are wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
         professional/critical            01/01/70 00:00      
   Seasoned Professional versus green            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is it either Or?            01/01/70 00:00      
   an addendum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Too simplistic!            01/01/70 00:00      

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