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09/09/09 06:23
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#168817 - Richard likes his random pseudo facts
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Richard Erlacher said:
We don't use FAX, as it's too slow and inefficient. The same document can be sent via email 100x as fast with fewer errors, and totally readable, unlike FAX.

I can have an acknowledgment from Rawalpindi or Frankfurt long before my FAX can establish a link. Email doesn't wrinkle the original document, nor does it mess up the image. We quit using FAX 15 years ago.

And you don't care about customers who wants to use fax? Wait - dont' answer that.

Byt the way - todays fax machines can receive a fax and mail the received fax - different email receivers depending on who sent the fax. And todays faxes are integrated with printers, so any printable document can be faxed without any scanning involved. And if you do happen to have a written papper from somewhere (that just can't be mailed without first being digitized) you can scan it to a pdf or a fax. It was probably 15 years since fax machines could be completely paperless.

Richard said:
So ... it doesn't matter that it bothers others? I tolerate ambient-120db ... sometimes as loud as ambient-80db. If it can be measured, it's too loud! If you need to listen to something, then do it elsewhere. The only time you're expected to be in the office is when your work is behind schedule. If you take off leaving work behind schedule, you may find your final check when you return.

You accept noise as long as it is 120dB below ambient?

Now please give us your full contact information. I think I can send a lot of work in your direction. It is normally quite hard to measure sounds below the ambient, which is the reason why audio laboratories invests so much money in sound-proofed rooms. Signal analysis can process repetitive signals and extract data even if the signal is quite a number of dB below the noise level. But 80 or 120 dB below is most definitely a world record. Most audio equipment can't even manage 120dB full dynamic range. You are outstanding.

If you on the other hand switches direction and talk about sound relative 20 μPa, then 0dB is the limit a normal human being can hear at 1kHz. +120 dB would then be the level where you start to risk hearing damages after short-term exposure, while +80dB could lead to hearing damages after long-time exposure.

ambient + 40dB would represent someone who talks quite loudly in a room, and quite a lot of developers would like to use a headset with music just to not have to hear that blabbermouth - the distraction from that talk would affect the productivity of quite a lot of people...

You really show that you know what you are talking about. Do you use similar randomly-invented pseudo-facts when communicating with your customers?

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is it sad or is it wonderful?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Confucious            01/01/70 00:00      
   It's due to loss of rigor in the product development cycle            01/01/70 00:00      
      strawman again.            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's where the problem lies ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      A good aim, but unachievable in practice?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's a cultural artifact            01/01/70 00:00      
            I can imagine Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
               you haven't answered the question, Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
                  erm, dunno            01/01/70 00:00      
            Second to MArket            01/01/70 00:00      
               They didn't do that during that era ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Bismarck was quite efficient            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's a poor tradeoff, security against schedule            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Quantity and quality seldom combinable            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Please do get your facts straight, Per            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Don't ignore psychology            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Cannon ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The Dora, possibly.            01/01/70 00:00      
            not my quote, but in some article I read ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too expensive is the killer, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Price is not everything            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Do you think this applies to things you can't see?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        not so often            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That would have no impact at all, but for the sticker            01/01/70 00:00      
      mental hardware guy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, you fit my model of a software guy            01/01/70 00:00      
            huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Big generation issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You're right ... I'm not            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Richard likes his random pseudo facts            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My situation is not like yours, Per            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's an extraordinary working arrangement, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I don't dislike the land-line phone ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 on phone etc.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    the inventor of the cellphone could have made a fortune            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    This is what's evolved over the decades.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Sounding quite sad            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'm not trying to grow a labor pool            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You are ignoring the value of feedback            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I'm not at all sure I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Still thinking a developer will reach a magic 100% level            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The customer is always right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Definitely a lesson there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Perhaps, but they're one in a billion.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not everyone fits in every organization.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: not everyone ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Erlacher Logic            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now when did I say that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Apparently you can't pick up on the subtleties ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   well..            01/01/70 00:00      
   In fact            01/01/70 00:00      
   So yeah            01/01/70 00:00      
      That IS a problem, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dice?            01/01/70 00:00      
      used for gambling...            01/01/70 00:00      
      http://www.dice.com            01/01/70 00:00      
   Devolution            01/01/70 00:00      
   2 wrongs make a right?            01/01/70 00:00      
   One of the major problems we have            01/01/70 00:00      
      Design-for-test is the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         you are quite right Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
            "Proven-Product" syndrome            01/01/70 00:00      

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