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09/09/09 05:40
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#168814 - Not everyone fits in every organization.
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Andy Peters said:
Richard Erlacher said:
Though you wouldn't last long with your iPod. They let too much sound come out of your nose, which disturbs those who are trying to do useful work.


You ARE kidding, I hope.

Anyways -- the iPod allows ME to do useful work, what with all of the chatter, and the running vacuum pumps and other sources of noise.

So ... it doesn't matter that it bothers others? I tolerate ambient-120db ... sometimes as loud as ambient-80db. If it can be measured, it's too loud! If you need to listen to something, then do it elsewhere. The only time you're expected to be in the office is when your work is behind schedule. If you take off leaving work behind schedule, you may find your final check when you return.

If you are a chronic cellphone user you'd not get in the door either.


I fail to see how a cell phone differs from a standard desk phone in this regard. Folks around here take their personal conversations outside or at least into the break room, so in that sense, cell phones are actually better!

I don't like the desk phone either. All this stems from one guy who spent all his office time trying to sell his house and buy another. None of his stuff worked, and none of it was on schedule. He didn't last long. I imagine he only came to the office to use the local phone, as he lived in a different area code.
I have one, too, but it stays in the car, since its purpose is to call the cops when some uninsured fool runs his car into mine. Aside from that, it only comes in the house to be recharged. I've logged 8 minutes on it this year, of which 7 were when I was at one of my vacant rentals.


While I've never ever gone over the number of minutes my service contract allows, a cell phone actually a remarkably useful piece of kit. Say I am traveling, as I will be this weekend, and I'd like to talk to my wife and see how the little guy (now 15 months old) is doing. Plus she can text me, which is something I thought only teenagers do, but it's actually useful. She can send a text saying, "Stop at the store for XXX on your way home from work." Saves a phone call and is better than e-mail because I might not be at my desk. Free long-distance service is a bonus, too, as I can call the production managers at the venues I'll be in this weekend and not worry about long-distance charges.

My land line cost nothing for long distance. My cellphone is paid for in advance, and I have used barely 15 minutes since I got the thing. Of course, I'm widowed, and my surviving kid is about your age (I'm guessing, of course) and I seldom hear from him unless something big is happening.

Yes, I have an iPhone.

What a surprise!

-a



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TopicAuthorDate
is it sad or is it wonderful?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Confucious            01/01/70 00:00      
   It's due to loss of rigor in the product development cycle            01/01/70 00:00      
      strawman again.            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's where the problem lies ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      A good aim, but unachievable in practice?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's a cultural artifact            01/01/70 00:00      
            I can imagine Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
               you haven't answered the question, Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
                  erm, dunno            01/01/70 00:00      
            Second to MArket            01/01/70 00:00      
               They didn't do that during that era ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Bismarck was quite efficient            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's a poor tradeoff, security against schedule            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Quantity and quality seldom combinable            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Please do get your facts straight, Per            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Don't ignore psychology            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Cannon ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The Dora, possibly.            01/01/70 00:00      
            not my quote, but in some article I read ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too expensive is the killer, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Price is not everything            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Do you think this applies to things you can't see?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        not so often            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That would have no impact at all, but for the sticker            01/01/70 00:00      
      mental hardware guy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, you fit my model of a software guy            01/01/70 00:00      
            huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Big generation issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You're right ... I'm not            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Richard likes his random pseudo facts            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My situation is not like yours, Per            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's an extraordinary working arrangement, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I don't dislike the land-line phone ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 on phone etc.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    the inventor of the cellphone could have made a fortune            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    This is what's evolved over the decades.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Sounding quite sad            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'm not trying to grow a labor pool            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You are ignoring the value of feedback            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I'm not at all sure I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Still thinking a developer will reach a magic 100% level            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The customer is always right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Definitely a lesson there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Perhaps, but they're one in a billion.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not everyone fits in every organization.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: not everyone ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Erlacher Logic            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now when did I say that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Apparently you can't pick up on the subtleties ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   well..            01/01/70 00:00      
   In fact            01/01/70 00:00      
   So yeah            01/01/70 00:00      
      That IS a problem, isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dice?            01/01/70 00:00      
      used for gambling...            01/01/70 00:00      
      http://www.dice.com            01/01/70 00:00      
   Devolution            01/01/70 00:00      
   2 wrongs make a right?            01/01/70 00:00      
   One of the major problems we have            01/01/70 00:00      
      Design-for-test is the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         you are quite right Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
            "Proven-Product" syndrome            01/01/70 00:00      

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