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06/08/08 23:51
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#155600 - now, don't get me wrong here ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
{quote=Richard Erlacher]However, the decision is not always up to the design engineer
I did NOT say "stupid engineer", I said "stupid BOSS"

How do you come up with the above blabber as a response to "stupid BOSS".

Erik


It's the engineer's job to do what the boss tells him, and, at times, to lay out options, including tradeoffs. If the boss decides he wants the guy to use component XXX even though it's better in one or many ways, to use YYY, then he probably should tell the boss, but if the boss then still insists on using XXX, it's on the boss and not on the engineer.

If the engineer doesn't like that, then he should resign and go somewhere else, perhaps where the boss will do what the lowly engineer thinks he should.

If I were the boss, and my subordinate didn't want to do what I needed him to do, I'd certainly allow him to express his concerns. However, if I knew that we were going to close our doors in three months, or sell out, or heaven-knows-what-else that's not the sort of thing one would tell subordinates until the time is right, I wouldn't feel obliged to tell the engineer why I made my choice, though I would absolutely expect him to do what I told him I wanted.

BTW, if he chooses his input resistors properly, the O/P probably can make this circuit, of which he's apparently building exactly one, function just fine without either load capacitors or Schmidt-triggers. The input capacitance of 4000-series inputs is not negligible, and if the pullup is large, and the series resistor appropriately chosen, the combination will not only debounce the contacts but will prevent excessive excursion of voltage at the inputs. I've occasionally used that sort of arrangement in front-panel interfaces with complete satisfaction.

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List of 42 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Input Protection            01/01/70 00:00      
   I use a series resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      I like clamps ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I would not use a \'S\' chip            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's just an array of schottky diodes, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               Resistors and cap            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why the slowpoke            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the technology will still work in this case            01/01/70 00:00      
                        stupid boss            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ... or stupid Erik, maybe?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I did NOT say "stupid engineer"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 now, don't get me wrong here ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a typical result of a stupid boss            01/01/70 00:00      
               well the 74S had me since ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, it indicates the process technology            01/01/70 00:00      
                     HEF4021            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Anyhow the major setback using 40xx            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This is entirely wrong!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No, not better, but different            01/01/70 00:00      
      Adding another cap            01/01/70 00:00      
         I do not think so, but it will wear the switch            01/01/70 00:00      
         Immunity against what?            01/01/70 00:00      
   No, just a business decision ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Uhm...            01/01/70 00:00      
         all 40xx chips are based on the same technology ..            01/01/70 00:00      
         if the RC before the PISO doesn't do it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Values            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not know why ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Values..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     like this            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Caps and RF immunity            01/01/70 00:00      
                        true - and not            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Expensive capacitors?            01/01/70 00:00      
            BALDERDASH            01/01/70 00:00      
               the PISO register is loaded only once ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I hav no desire to look up 40xx chips, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If there's nothing pressing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Setup            01/01/70 00:00      
                           overdoing it            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That just might be adeuqate ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 IF you choose the right rate ... and IF you check            01/01/70 00:00      

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