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06/07/08 18:15
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#155580 - It's just an array of schottky diodes, Erik
Responding to: ???'s previous message
arranged as 16 clamps to Vcc and GND and it's entirely passive. i.e. no power consumed from the supply other than what it dissipates from the signals.

Erik Malund said:
I like clamps Have a look at 74S1053
I would not use a 'S' chip
Regular HC(T) chips can clamp 20mA either way and with the filter I suggested exceeding that is extremly unlikely. I recommend using a schmitt chip (e.g a -14) to handle the slower rise/fall time the cap introduces.

I have no idea what the 'S' chip Richard suggest can clamp, but 20mA is more than sufficient when preceeded by 'my' filter.

that series resistor should be valuable in limiting the voltage to legal levels I like the capacitor to reduce the risetime, clamps need a few nanoseconds to react, and I can visualize a heavy spike getting past that if no cap.

Erik


The advantages to using the Schottky clamps are (1) there are 16 of them in a single SO20 (among others) package and cheap (though DigiKey is very proud of them), and (2) they're Schottky diodes with a lower forward voltage than typical silicon diodes. They just provide another option, particularly if protecting the PISO register inputs is deemed necessary. No doubt the Schmidt-trigger is a good idea with switches, which can benefit from the RC-filter.

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List of 42 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Input Protection            01/01/70 00:00      
   I use a series resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      I like clamps ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I would not use a \'S\' chip            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's just an array of schottky diodes, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               Resistors and cap            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why the slowpoke            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the technology will still work in this case            01/01/70 00:00      
                        stupid boss            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ... or stupid Erik, maybe?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I did NOT say "stupid engineer"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 now, don't get me wrong here ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a typical result of a stupid boss            01/01/70 00:00      
               well the 74S had me since ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, it indicates the process technology            01/01/70 00:00      
                     HEF4021            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Anyhow the major setback using 40xx            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This is entirely wrong!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No, not better, but different            01/01/70 00:00      
      Adding another cap            01/01/70 00:00      
         I do not think so, but it will wear the switch            01/01/70 00:00      
         Immunity against what?            01/01/70 00:00      
   No, just a business decision ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Uhm...            01/01/70 00:00      
         all 40xx chips are based on the same technology ..            01/01/70 00:00      
         if the RC before the PISO doesn't do it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Values            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not know why ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Values..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     like this            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Caps and RF immunity            01/01/70 00:00      
                        true - and not            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Expensive capacitors?            01/01/70 00:00      
            BALDERDASH            01/01/70 00:00      
               the PISO register is loaded only once ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I hav no desire to look up 40xx chips, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If there's nothing pressing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Setup            01/01/70 00:00      
                           overdoing it            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That just might be adeuqate ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 IF you choose the right rate ... and IF you check            01/01/70 00:00      

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