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08/30/06 20:44
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#123406 - The real world
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan Waclawek said:
Please quantify for 32kHz clock and the lowest supply voltage at full run for the equivalent of PIC16F84, at least as a typical value (it's typ 15uA for the PIC).

Such figures are not really meaningfull. Total consumption depends critically on the state of inputs and outputs and the loads they are attached to. I know I was bitten that way once. We developed a CO monitor using a Z8. We got lots of info fron Zilog about the current consumption and determined we could achieve the required 5 year battery life and 15 uA current consumption. Unfortunately the first 50,000 mask programmed types consumed nearly 10 times this value - why because we had not chosen the correct output states nor did we realise their significance in terms of total power consumption. Of course the OTP parts we used for development were NOT identical to the ROM parts so this may be less of an issue today with identical flash parts in development and production but I would advise you to tread extremely carefully.

Ian


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PIC?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Awful instruction set and CPU architecture            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes true kalpak            01/01/70 00:00      
         True            01/01/70 00:00      
            I know this guy who whips out 3 PIC projects a wee            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hi-tech            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
            a case study...            01/01/70 00:00      
               words            01/01/70 00:00      
                  oh sorry...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Datasheets are terrible...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I hear you brother!            01/01/70 00:00      
      to PIC or not to PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
      8051-like "instruction set" for PICs            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why PICs? Let me count the ways            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hey Charles!            01/01/70 00:00      
         :)            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ahh the luxury!            01/01/70 00:00      
               True            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Stretching it            01/01/70 00:00      
               Memories            01/01/70 00:00      
      Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
         a true story            01/01/70 00:00      
         No, not really            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hmm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Steve, Why are you attacking me?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Your msg Charles            01/01/70 00:00      
            a joke            01/01/70 00:00      
               Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It was an attack. Not a joke.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how can a copy be misquote?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Equally talented            01/01/70 00:00      
            Have you heard of copyright            01/01/70 00:00      
               Your employees can\'t have hobbies?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You've never heard of ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        nope            01/01/70 00:00      
                           copyright etc.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              10 2) 3) 4) enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ahhh            01/01/70 00:00      
                  nope            01/01/70 00:00      
            I can\'t blame him.            01/01/70 00:00      
               PICs are low consumption            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ...So are LPC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     how much exactly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                         Not at the moment            01/01/70 00:00      
                        did you check the \"user giude\"?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           that's even more confusing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              this is 'to be found out'            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The real world            01/01/70 00:00      
                           current consumption            01/01/70 00:00      
      PICs outsell the 8051??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Both outsold by 68HC05            01/01/70 00:00      
      a comment and a correction            01/01/70 00:00      
      All these wonders, yet the 805x still outsells it!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Market share            01/01/70 00:00      
      Lots of 8051s now            01/01/70 00:00      
   PICky, PICky, PICky...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Continuing...            01/01/70 00:00      
      35 instruction            01/01/70 00:00      
         Very accurate            01/01/70 00:00      
      ARGH!            01/01/70 00:00      
   sorry, could not help it            01/01/70 00:00      
   How do you confuse an embedded developer?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nice one            01/01/70 00:00      
   PIC Assembly is tough.            01/01/70 00:00      
   site            01/01/70 00:00      
      start here            01/01/70 00:00      
         and for PIC 'c' programming...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Free C compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
               agreed but....            01/01/70 00:00      

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