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06/09/13 22:30
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#189893 - Wrong how?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
OK, but wrong. Time must be included in the calculation. E.g. a chip that runs twice as fast will allow twice the active mode current.

Yes, but in this case I looked at the graphs in the datasheet. They list Icc at frequencies from 1 to 24MHz. At 2MHz the numbers are 0.6mA (idle) and 2.7mA (active), so I expected the actual current to be somewhere between the two. Where did I go wrong there?

Why? 3V3 chips also have TTL output levels.

Yes, but getting 5V from a 3V3 device is hard. I'm not driving a TTL input, but actually need 5V. But it looks like some Silabs devices run on 2.x volts internally, and can still do 5V I/O.

IAP/JTAG seems a better solution

Yes, if there's space. The common 10-pin headers are a no-go - there simply isn't that much space available. The devices that only need two pins for programming would be OK.

The reason I chose DIL, is also assembly time. Soldering in a DIL device is a lot faster than the SMD devices (for me). A SOIC is not much worse, but anything smaller takes too long (when you may have a 100 boards to assemble).

I have done a search for Silabs devices at the Mouser site, and it looks like 5V and SOIC are mutually exclusive options. But I may have overlooked something.

I failed to mention in my first post, that my aim is less than 2mA. So I'm close already, but not close enough.

Mikkel

List of 44 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Low-power MCU needed            01/01/70 00:00      
   OK, but wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong how?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Silabs options            01/01/70 00:00      
            C8051F99x            01/01/70 00:00      
               Silabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                  look it up            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Looked up            01/01/70 00:00      
                        f53, no            01/01/70 00:00      
                        C8051F537A is OK            01/01/70 00:00      
         the current in active mode is not the issue            01/01/70 00:00      
            Inactive current            01/01/70 00:00      
         re: wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
            Consumers            01/01/70 00:00      
   Zilog Z51F0410             01/01/70 00:00      
      Zilog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Check you are entering idle ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   idle current            01/01/70 00:00      
      Idle test            01/01/70 00:00      
         re:            01/01/70 00:00      
            It floats! It floats!            01/01/70 00:00      
               re:floats            01/01/70 00:00      
               re:floats            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Timers            01/01/70 00:00      
         More idle tests            01/01/70 00:00      
            Better regulator?            01/01/70 00:00      
               LR8K4 450V regulator             01/01/70 00:00      
         also try CLKREG            01/01/70 00:00      
            Clk Dividers are a good idea            01/01/70 00:00      
               No dividers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  LP52 is cheaper too...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     LP52            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No GND pin?            01/01/70 00:00      
         re:idle            01/01/70 00:00      
         Totally idle            01/01/70 00:00      
            Checks            01/01/70 00:00      
               More checks            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Power Down ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  test setup            01/01/70 00:00      
   STC            01/01/70 00:00      
      C8051F86x/85x ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe not such a good choice, after all?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Support?            01/01/70 00:00      
            '51 support            01/01/70 00:00      

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