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10/29/09 07:51
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#170167 - No, you are restricting the definition of "help"
Responding to: ???'s previous message
You continue to repeat the same thing.

We do not restrict ourselves into not debating technology and solutions. We restrict ourselves into not doing other peoples school assignments for them. We will not grow as human beings or professionals for posting turn-key solutions. On the contrary. Turn-key solutions will not make people learn because people will not look at the solution to try to figure out how/why it works, and how to modify the code to fit different problems. It is you who want to limit us. If the second post in a thread is 100 lines of working code (complete with #include, declarations, main() etc) then there would not be any debate about timer overflows, signed/unsigned integers, bit variables instead of char or int etc.

And no, there are many school projects discussed here. And you know about them.

The issue is if the "help" should really be help, or free labour.

And the issue is if the requester - a student intended to learn - should get help that he/she is learning from, or just something to copy/paste before turning in the assignment.

And do not pretend that this isn't what the discussion is about. I say it again: Do your homework. Check real forum threads, and you will see that people who wants copy/paste solutions ends up short, while people who wants to discuss functionality or asks for help when they have gotten stuck do get help.

Kai said:
And the number of professionals rising their questions in such a forum is very limited.

You really, really have to explain that sentence. Do you mean that if forum memebers are not too interested in giving copy/paste solutions to school assignments, then professionals (who obviously are not asking about school assignments) would not want to ask about something here? Please help out with examples.

Kai said:
Sorry, but this is the dead of such a discussion forum. If only a handful of posters is worth to be helped, then this will kill this forum.

Your standard extrapolation. Repeated again and again. But never backed with any evidence on request. People have supplied you with a ton of links showing students who have received help on this forum. But for some reason you don't want to check the links out because you have decided that a person isn't helped unless the answer is in a form where it may be copy/pasted and the assignment turned in. You seem to be quite alone in limiting the definition of "help" in that way.

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Random numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
   How random?            01/01/70 00:00      
   extract?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Time for Google            01/01/70 00:00      
      Extract            01/01/70 00:00      
   you can't            01/01/70 00:00      
      a very good way to get random numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
      Interesting anecdote regarding timers:            01/01/70 00:00      
      Periodicity            01/01/70 00:00      
   Just curious...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Didn't search first!            01/01/70 00:00      
         New Information not searchable            01/01/70 00:00      
            Using life itself as part of its computational matrix...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sure it is            01/01/70 00:00      
         Show me any real new thread...            01/01/70 00:00      
            But...            01/01/70 00:00      
               It really means...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No "Come In!", but a "Go Home!"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Exclusive information...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Thanks...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        First and ONLY Time I reply to this            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Completely ridiculous might be a bit strong            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Lazyness...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              ...is already ignored            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But we restrict ourselves!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    No, you are restricting the definition of "help"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Your propaganda again...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          People ARE posting code snippets etc            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Come on, how many do so?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Do what?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The limiting factor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Mixing subjects            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Not a valid answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Are we poluting this thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yes, but Roberto has gone already...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              true for good schools, but not for diploma mills            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Balance            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Warding people away is no good policy either            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Bully for seeing problems with negative votes???            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Its his will            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Its just a biginning!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Still extrapolating            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Relativity?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Extrapolating What            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not a valid conclusion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Still extrapolating            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Wrong link?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              link to link            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But nothing about fear of 8052.com?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    At least,...            01/01/70 00:00      
   This method might work...you can try it....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Unnecessary complication!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Watch out for distribution problems for small ranges            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes..But for added randomness, use the table            01/01/70 00:00      
            Incorrect - the table adds nothing!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Quality often important even for simple devices            01/01/70 00:00      
                  can be dangerous            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bus arbitration needs a lot            01/01/70 00:00      
            HUH????            01/01/70 00:00      
      he can't            01/01/70 00:00      
      Modulating the /INT0 input by a simple noise generator            01/01/70 00:00      
         Post-processing needed            01/01/70 00:00      
            What interrupt?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Both interrupt or gating possible            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Full agree with everything you wrote!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Addendum...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Google as a resource?            01/01/70 00:00      

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