A lazy student, who is not willing to learn and to do it the hard way, will not profit from this place very much, even if a complete solution was presented to him on the silver platter. Because, if he is lazy or dumb his teacher will notice it very quickly and his "solution" will be nothing worth at the end.

Also, even if a code snippet or a little picture of a schematic posted here looks like a complete solution, it is not, and a lazy student cannot profit much from it anyway, if he isn't willing to add considerable own efforts. Todays teachers know from the internet and know very well to value the work of a student, which looks "brilliant". Two or three specific questions to the student and the charm is broken...

Allthough some members here think, that lazy students are responsible for airplane crashes, swine flu and other disasters, I don't think that it is a crime to offer help to someone, who might not be worth it. I do not want to judge and think about whether someone is worth it or not. I'm not the police, I'm not the teacher of the student and this is place wasn't founded to save the mankind either. This is a forum to discuss 8051 related issues and other technical issues in the chat board, nothing else.

But instead of this, we behave like the police, the ministry of education and the internet patrol. We restrict ourselves to punish lazy students which violate petty and senseless forum rules instead of discussing technical issues.

I'm not at all interested in the lazy student! To the hell with him, if he isn't smart enough to see why hard work is worth to be done. Let him steel everything here, but I'm not willed to infect myself with his negativismn. I think positive about people, the world, my job, not because everything is good, but because I do not want to live the life of a disappointed and paranoid person. The lazy student will get a bloody nose and judge himself faster than he can think. I don't fear him at all either, because due to my hard work over years and decades I will always be better than him. So why should I worry about the foolness of an idiot?


Of course, they do! But why is everyone here focusing so much on the OP? God knows, that I do not like very much the attitude of many old members here. But I respect their work, their knowledge and their experience! I like to discuss with them and to learn from them. But before a discussion moves into gear, the journey is stopped, because someone broke a petty forum rule, or someone has asked the wrong question or made too many typing errors, or used SMS style, or didn't swear having searched on Google all the last 72hours, and and and.

If a student, who obviously appears to you to be lazy, comes here and wants to be spoon feeded, ignore him. Just ignore him. If his thread after 3 days doesn't contain any useful discussion, delete this whole thread.

If his thread is the starting point of a useful discussion, on the other hand, forget the OP and continue the discussion. Don't be so much focused on the OP and to punish lazyness, but discuss, discuss and discuss technical issues. This is the destiny of this forum...

Kai Klaas