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10/03/11 15:23
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#183989 - Real world often less ideal
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Konstantinos L. Angelis said:
Dell workstations are among the best.

Are you willing to supply any metric that does back this statement?

I can't really say I have liked any Dell workstation. One workstation had the processor fan blow air on the temperature sensor. No problems for unloaded machine. Try to run at 100% CPU load, and the CPU fan would spin up to cool the processor. Then after cooling the sensor, it would spin down. Then spin up again. So the machine sounded like an autumn storm. Thank you Dell.

Another Dell workstation regularly restarts the graphics driver - especially for Youtube or similar video sources. The machine freezes for a couple of seconds, and then reactivates with a short message that the graphics card driver has been restarted. Thank you Dell.

Dell - the company that for a number of years used power supplies with the standard ATX connector, but with the wires shifted. Insert a Dell PSU in a non-Dell machine, and smell the smoke. Insert a standard PSU in a Dell machine, and smell the smoke. Thank you Dell.

Dell - the company that gives a motherboard manufacturer a fixed price, asking: can you supply motherboards for this price? Take it or leave it! So Dell workstations without sensor for temperature, fan speed or voltages. Tank you Dell.

You get decent machines for the price, but "among the best" may be a bit strong.

In modern M$ Operating Systems security plays the most significant role.

Not sure that this is true. It feels more like "perceived security plays the most significant role."

The M$ implementation of security is seriously lacking configurability. Lots of people turns off all security features just because they can't give a specific program the right to perform specific changes. For a firewall, it is natural to allow "accept", "deny", "accept for this time", ... for individual programs and ports or destinations. It would be logical that the same rules were true about other access limitations.

So Service Packs are necessary and frequent updates also.

Most OS do supply frequent updates. A huge difference is that M$ have a design where you often have to reboot. And where - if you run a very big job taking maybe 24 hours - you get frequent reminders to restart the machine. You can't just click "shut up for 24 hours". So you have to drag that little nasty dialog all the way outside the right side of the monitor, where M$ may believe that the dialog is open, and hence not pop up new dialogs again, and again, and again. All the while taking the keyboard focus from a user busy typing in text.

Using virualizations you may run 2 (two) or more different versions of
the development tools. The running system can be born virtualized and
run hosted in another physical machine. This virtualized system can be
copied (remember Norton Ghost ?), reconfigured and run by many other
hosts, even on Virtualized servers for more tight security and access control.

Not always possible in the real world. There is often limitations to the virtualization.

Today's machines have overcome any thoughts of speed for the last 20 years of IT.

The same could be said 10 years ago, but wouldn't be truer or falser then. Todays machines are faster. But at the same time, we are constantly changing our expectations of them. Try loading a 20Mpixel photo from a better DSLR and perform a bit of image processing on it, and you would notice that even with all eight cores busy, todays machines are not too fast. Same if you try a FEM simulation, virtual reality, or running regression testing of non-trivial source code.

The problem is that we get faster and faster computers, but at the same time the OS keeps claiming more and more resources even for standard operations. Even if fast hw-accelerated graphics cards can handle transparencies, multiple rendering passes for each presented frame etc, we pay for this in extra electric bills. How important is it, that the title bar of a Windows application is semi-transparent, and that the application hidden behind will - despite being hidden - will render, just so the semi-transparence will show fuzzy ghosting of the background?

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To be or not to be 32bit or 64bit            01/01/70 00:00      
   64-bit            01/01/70 00:00      
      the other side of the coin            01/01/70 00:00      
         Megasoft Windozes - Ecological disaster?            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's another way ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      2 operating systems            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: You have to partition            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not necessarily the best way ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe not            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's relevant in this case ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Win7 x64 Prof. wih Vitual PC            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hard to beleive            01/01/70 00:00      
         win7 Virtualization            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sounds highly unlikely to me!            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's pretty much true.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gotcha on XP VM on Win7            01/01/70 00:00      
         Virtualization            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'd be interested to know, too!            01/01/70 00:00      
      about a year ago            01/01/70 00:00      
         win7 Dell and virtualization            01/01/70 00:00      
            HA - this is hilarious            01/01/70 00:00      
               win7 virtualization            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how does what I "have to do"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     PC XT @10MHz            01/01/70 00:00      
                        how about staying with the issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                        None of my Windows stuff that runs on the oldtimers ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ever heard of VMWare?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Real world often less ideal            01/01/70 00:00      
               context is everything.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Of course context is important - but which meaning intended?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Workstations            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The case is pretty ugly, though            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Kewl fan lights            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I have to agree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   4+GB of RAM.            01/01/70 00:00      
      You just need more than 4GB            01/01/70 00:00      
         I haven't really noticed that            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not machines            01/01/70 00:00      
         stuff that needs RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
            Few non-specialist programs needs lots of RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
               Even software that doesn't use the RAM itself profits.            01/01/70 00:00      

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