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10/30/07 19:48
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#146391 - Here\\\'s a suggestion ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Just so everyone can know what a pretty decent schematic capture package, and, for that matter, a PCB editor/autorouter, etc, can be, I'd suggest that those curious enough about what a DOS-based schematic capture package CAN be, email

OldDosOrcad@yahoogroups.com

which is the user mailing list and ask some questions. Now, I'm not sure what the mechanics of getting "in" are, as I've been "in" for over a decade and have long forgotten. I would guess that you have to join the group.

However, there's a files area from which the manuals, updated drivers, and the executables are obtainable, at no cost, once you're "in."

Over the last 30+ years, I've worked with *NIX-based tools, and PC-based tools, among others, and never, ever encountered a schematic capture package that was more useful and friendly than the DOS-OrCAD SDT. It came with sufficient library content that, in the mid '80's, I was able to draw schematics at will without generating new symbols. When I did need a new symbol, it seldom took more than a half hour, and often less than 5 minutes' time. That need will probably occur more frequently now, as there are so many new components, and so few are multi-sourced.

There's good and valuable help available from the mailing list, but, unlike this forum, I'd be VERY sure that you've thoroughly read and understood the manuals before going there for help. Once it's plain to the participants that you're too lazy to read the manuals, you'll simply be filtered out of everyone's email.

Further, I don't know what will happen if you try to use SMS codes. In over a decade, I've never once encountered it on that mailing list.

I do have recent versions of Windows-based Altium, OrCAD, and numerous other tool sets, some costing even more, and assure you, none of them come anywhere close to the ease and convenience of the old DOS-OrCAD tools for schematic capture, once you've read and understood the manuals. There's also a tricky but easy-to-use digital logic simulator that I've often found convenient, despite its foibles.

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TopicAuthorDate
Schematic Software            01/01/70 00:00      
   Eagle ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Eagle is unquestionalby the WORST available!            01/01/70 00:00      
         http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinycad/            01/01/70 00:00      
   What about ExpressPCB?            01/01/70 00:00      
      You said schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
   Schematic or EDA?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Kicad - Free Open Source EDA            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not JPEG!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ExpressPCB            01/01/70 00:00      
            No! Not JPEG!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               converting            01/01/70 00:00      
         Point taken            01/01/70 00:00      
            The purpose of publishing - the real question...?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Netlists.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Whatever happened to EDIF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     AFAIK, there is no so-called standard            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Here\\\'s a suggestion ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           OrCAD SDT (or Old DOS Orcad)            01/01/70 00:00      
                              YMMV            01/01/70 00:00      
                     EDIF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Standardized netlists            01/01/70 00:00      
                        AUTOCAD Symbols            01/01/70 00:00      
   Link to another thread            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nearly any Windows software will work            01/01/70 00:00      
      I think you need a better PDF converter            01/01/70 00:00      
         Open Source PDFCreator            01/01/70 00:00      
      PDF Yes! PDF995 No!            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'll absolutely give it a try ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   ExpressPCB?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Schematics capture or Publishing in www?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Web Publishing            01/01/70 00:00      
      But what does that mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Adobe Acrobat            01/01/70 00:00      
      Did you pay for your Acrobat Reader, then...?            01/01/70 00:00      
         a difference            01/01/70 00:00      
            Oh, they do...            01/01/70 00:00      
               like the VISTA security backdoor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  oh, those big corporate vultures            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The way out            01/01/70 00:00      
                     YES, indeed, It doesn't get much better            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Keil et al            01/01/70 00:00      
                           SHOW ME            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Do your own work            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Pot, Kettle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ignoring the rest of the drivel, one point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Color me impressed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       nobody asked you to be            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Godwin's Law            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It may be good - but not that good            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Spam and Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Linux tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Hmm...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Isn't it YAMMV            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Spam            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Yes, that\'s true ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Sad, but true            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Propaganda            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don\'t know ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure, but you DO know it is not malicious            01/01/70 00:00      
                  malicious            01/01/70 00:00      

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