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10/30/07 15:21
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#146385 - AFAIK, there is no so-called standard
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I've wondered about this for years and never found an answer. EDIF is a standard, but it's just a netlist.

The problem, as I see it, is that there's no "standard" for schematic symbols. Without that, there's no real way to generate a transferable representation from one proprietary package to another. While most CAE packages are capable of generating and exporting netlists targeted at other vendors' proprietary PCB packages, those are for the purpose of using schematic capture "A" to generate a netlist for PCB editor/router "B" and not for importing schematics from any other package for editing.

Bitmaps provide the easiest display vehicle, but they're awkward to import and edit, except in the crudest way, e.g. using PAINT or similar pixel editors.

DXF format might work, if one had a program that would both import and export it, but generating DXF in the usual way won't preserve symbols. It will draw them, but won't deal with them as an object.

Obviously, it's not an easy problem to solve, else it would have been done by now.

On corollary problem is that of generating portable symbol libraries with sufficient content to enable one to draw a schematic using standard device symbols (e.g. 74xxx logic, passives, op-amps, regulators, etc.)

The old DOS-OrCAD suite had a very handy, though not totally convenient, way of generating symbols and adding them to libraries.

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Schematic Software            01/01/70 00:00      
   Eagle ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Eagle is unquestionalby the WORST available!            01/01/70 00:00      
         http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinycad/            01/01/70 00:00      
   What about ExpressPCB?            01/01/70 00:00      
      You said schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
   Schematic or EDA?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Kicad - Free Open Source EDA            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not JPEG!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ExpressPCB            01/01/70 00:00      
            No! Not JPEG!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               converting            01/01/70 00:00      
         Point taken            01/01/70 00:00      
            The purpose of publishing - the real question...?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Netlists.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Whatever happened to EDIF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     AFAIK, there is no so-called standard            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Here\\\'s a suggestion ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           OrCAD SDT (or Old DOS Orcad)            01/01/70 00:00      
                              YMMV            01/01/70 00:00      
                     EDIF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Standardized netlists            01/01/70 00:00      
                        AUTOCAD Symbols            01/01/70 00:00      
   Link to another thread            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nearly any Windows software will work            01/01/70 00:00      
      I think you need a better PDF converter            01/01/70 00:00      
         Open Source PDFCreator            01/01/70 00:00      
      PDF Yes! PDF995 No!            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'll absolutely give it a try ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   ExpressPCB?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Schematics capture or Publishing in www?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Web Publishing            01/01/70 00:00      
      But what does that mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Adobe Acrobat            01/01/70 00:00      
      Did you pay for your Acrobat Reader, then...?            01/01/70 00:00      
         a difference            01/01/70 00:00      
            Oh, they do...            01/01/70 00:00      
               like the VISTA security backdoor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  oh, those big corporate vultures            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The way out            01/01/70 00:00      
                     YES, indeed, It doesn't get much better            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Keil et al            01/01/70 00:00      
                           SHOW ME            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Do your own work            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Pot, Kettle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ignoring the rest of the drivel, one point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Color me impressed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       nobody asked you to be            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Godwin's Law            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It may be good - but not that good            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Spam and Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Linux tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Hmm...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Isn't it YAMMV            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Spam            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Yes, that\'s true ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Sad, but true            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Propaganda            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don\'t know ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure, but you DO know it is not malicious            01/01/70 00:00      
                  malicious            01/01/70 00:00      

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