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12/12/06 03:51
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#129321 - I doubt this.....
Responding to: ???'s previous message

I think the best results can be expected by using an external watchdog and external brown-out detection.


I doubt this, companies like Microchip, Atmel(AVR), Silabs have all incorpated internal watchdog and internal brown out detectors, surely these companies must have done a lot of research to ensure that the internal mode will equal to external mode if not better.


So, I nearly always use the MAX1232


Every product I have shipped out with the 8051 family (without the internal mode) has always gone out with the xx1232 chip, and I think because of this I have never had any of my products working eraticaly.

I have recently begun to use the Renesas (Hitachi+Mitsubishi) R8C/Tiny series microcontrollers, while they do not seem have the fancy features of a Silabs microcontroller, they do seem to be made robustly, with more attention to clock failures etc. They also have internal programmable brownout and internal watchdog, these are also made for the automotive market, could it not be that the internal watchdog and brownout could be as reliable as the externel ones?

Regards,
John.



List of 51 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
My two cents and then sum            01/01/70 00:00      
   RC reset - asking for trouble!            01/01/70 00:00      
   be careful now ... here be dragons            01/01/70 00:00      
   May we...            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why you should use a proper reset chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      what about bidirectional reset?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I use only external watchdog / brown-out detection            01/01/70 00:00      
            I doubt this.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               If it really, really has to work..            01/01/70 00:00      
            there isn't much you can do about internal reset            01/01/70 00:00      
               which chip is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DS89C4x0, among, I suspect, others            01/01/70 00:00      
               Micro isn't allowed to emit reset signal            01/01/70 00:00      
         easy as apple pie            01/01/70 00:00      
            Only because it worked for you does not mean...            01/01/70 00:00      
               that does not matter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Of course, it does            01/01/70 00:00      
   all posts in this thread are incomplete            01/01/70 00:00      
      Then, please read again what I wrote            01/01/70 00:00      
         OK, you had that too            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks to all who give comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            What kind of supply regulation?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Battery            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hhm, I'm confused now...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if you specified            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I guess a LM78L05 was originally built-in            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Then, the DS275 won't work either            01/01/70 00:00      
            MAX6383            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe here            01/01/70 00:00      
      I did look their first            01/01/70 00:00      
         that is not what you asked            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               read the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What photo?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OOPS            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Always...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I would like change ds275            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You can, but..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ok, try this:            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    to Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Only to avoid damage caused by inrush currents            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Ah, thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          When you say "damage"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Would it be just too much of an effort for you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You are right Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I do, ONCE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Erik I said was sorry two times            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       i am not asking for 'sorry'            01/01/70 00:00      

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