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12/09/06 18:46
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#129230 - My two cents and then sum
Hi Jan:

I am newbie compared to all the engineers on this site.
When I purchased my 89c2051 sbc I wanted a unit that would work all time. So I looked around found this in nuts and volts magazine in 1996 http://www.allen-systems.com/mb51.htm. It cost at that time sbc assembled $50 now its $69.
It used an DS1833 5v econo reset. Looked like transistor 3 pin device. I would never build my own programmer to use as first project. I would build my own after I had the first to calabrate the second one. My quess is Allen Systems company was smart as it was new company and did not want have problems with their units so they added the 5v econo reset.
I called owner of the company John Allen ask why he had DS1833 part as I notice it kind of expensive and my text books only showed a 10uf cap. and 8.2K resistor. John said I ship all over the world and need to know my units all ways start up. You see Ralph I don't like unhappy customers. At that time 89c2051 were still for most designers.
Jan what do you think of the DS1833 part, ever use it?
I also notice on 80c31 part that ap notes leave off the 8.2k and use only 10uf cap will this even work most of the time?
If it does will it work on 89c2051 part?
I made a serial exerciser for my job with simple program that repeats the same over and over to test serial on pc's. Any way since I use batteries do I need some type of low battery alert on my test unit? I never thought about it till read your post on rc reset.


Best reguards,


Ralph Sack


P.S. Can any one recommend good econo part for using 89c2051 12pc 3v and it should be 3 pin device.

List of 51 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
My two cents and then sum            01/01/70 00:00      
   RC reset - asking for trouble!            01/01/70 00:00      
   be careful now ... here be dragons            01/01/70 00:00      
   May we...            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why you should use a proper reset chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      what about bidirectional reset?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I use only external watchdog / brown-out detection            01/01/70 00:00      
            I doubt this.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               If it really, really has to work..            01/01/70 00:00      
            there isn't much you can do about internal reset            01/01/70 00:00      
               which chip is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DS89C4x0, among, I suspect, others            01/01/70 00:00      
               Micro isn't allowed to emit reset signal            01/01/70 00:00      
         easy as apple pie            01/01/70 00:00      
            Only because it worked for you does not mean...            01/01/70 00:00      
               that does not matter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Of course, it does            01/01/70 00:00      
   all posts in this thread are incomplete            01/01/70 00:00      
      Then, please read again what I wrote            01/01/70 00:00      
         OK, you had that too            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks to all who give comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            What kind of supply regulation?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Battery            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hhm, I'm confused now...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if you specified            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I guess a LM78L05 was originally built-in            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Then, the DS275 won't work either            01/01/70 00:00      
            MAX6383            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe here            01/01/70 00:00      
      I did look their first            01/01/70 00:00      
         that is not what you asked            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               read the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What photo?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OOPS            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Always...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I would like change ds275            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You can, but..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ok, try this:            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    to Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Only to avoid damage caused by inrush currents            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Ah, thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          When you say "damage"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Would it be just too much of an effort for you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You are right Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I do, ONCE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Erik I said was sorry two times            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       i am not asking for 'sorry'            01/01/70 00:00      

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