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12/11/06 14:02
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#129281 - I use only external watchdog / brown-out detection
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Richard said:
How, then, should one generate a bidirectional reset, for those MCU's that both receive and drive the reset pin, as I mentioned earlier with reference to the watchdog timer?

I do not use the internal watchdog of micro and I don't use the internal brown-out detection, either. I think the best results can be expected by using an external watchdog and external brown-out detection. So, I nearly always use the MAX1232.

Richard said:
How can one determine that the MCU's oscillator is stabile? Maybe one should rule out using a crystal, and use a complete oscillator instead. Those have spec's that tell us how long from Vcc to stabile output. One could, after all, count, say, 4K (e.g. with 74HC4040) counts from the oscillator and then release the RESET.

The internal Pierce oscillator was originally designed by INTEL to show a fast start-up time. 10msec is enough to have it entirely started (a nearly instantanenous rise of Vcc assumed). So, with a reset time of 100msec you should always be on the safe side.

Nevertheless, you should never use a cheap crystal for this Pierce oscillator, because this can result in start-up problems, caused by high internal dampening of quartz (high equivalent series resistance).

You might also want to have a look at the Intel's famous application note "AP-155":

http://apps.intel.com/scripts-u...=Developer


Kai

List of 51 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
My two cents and then sum            01/01/70 00:00      
   RC reset - asking for trouble!            01/01/70 00:00      
   be careful now ... here be dragons            01/01/70 00:00      
   May we...            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why you should use a proper reset chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      what about bidirectional reset?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I use only external watchdog / brown-out detection            01/01/70 00:00      
            I doubt this.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               If it really, really has to work..            01/01/70 00:00      
            there isn't much you can do about internal reset            01/01/70 00:00      
               which chip is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DS89C4x0, among, I suspect, others            01/01/70 00:00      
               Micro isn't allowed to emit reset signal            01/01/70 00:00      
         easy as apple pie            01/01/70 00:00      
            Only because it worked for you does not mean...            01/01/70 00:00      
               that does not matter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Of course, it does            01/01/70 00:00      
   all posts in this thread are incomplete            01/01/70 00:00      
      Then, please read again what I wrote            01/01/70 00:00      
         OK, you had that too            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks to all who give comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            What kind of supply regulation?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Battery            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hhm, I'm confused now...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if you specified            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I guess a LM78L05 was originally built-in            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Then, the DS275 won't work either            01/01/70 00:00      
            MAX6383            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe here            01/01/70 00:00      
      I did look their first            01/01/70 00:00      
         that is not what you asked            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               read the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What photo?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OOPS            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Always...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I would like change ds275            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You can, but..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ok, try this:            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    to Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Only to avoid damage caused by inrush currents            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Ah, thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          When you say "damage"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sorry Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Would it be just too much of an effort for you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You are right Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I do, ONCE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Erik I said was sorry two times            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       i am not asking for 'sorry'            01/01/70 00:00      

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