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03/24/06 14:22
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#112978 - Constant current during inrush moment
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Suresh said:

Kai said,
When the lamp is switched-on, current through it is limited to about 0.2A and up to about 2.0W will drop across the transistor, but only for a very short time.
If the current through 3R0 resistor reachs about I = 0.6V / 3Ohm = 0.2A

from reading the above note, i tried to calculate how you have said that 2W would be dissipated in the transistor (BD135) and, the 3R resistor would have drop of .6V. BUT couldnt get clear with that. also with "what would be the voltage drop in the bulb in that circuit" since i think it would not drop 12V fully on it.

For the lamp shown above I have made the following inrush current test, remember?




So, this lamp shows an impedance of 12V / 0.18A = 66.7 Ohm, when being turned-on for a longer time, at least longer than the inrush phenomenon needs. At the inrush moment, on the other hand, flowing current is 8.8 times higher, as you can see from the scope plot. So, impedance then is 12V / (0.18A x 8.8) = 7.6 Ohm.

The above constant current driver limits the current through the lamp to about 0.2A at any instant, because about 0.6V drops across the 3R0 resistor. So, when 0.2A is flowing through the cold lamp, and its impedance is only 7.6 Ohm at that instant, then only 0.2A x 7.6 Ohm = 1.5V is dropping across the lamp. The rest, namely 12V - 1.5V - 0.6V = 9.9V is dropping across the collector emitter junction of BD135.
9.9V times 0.2A gives a power of 2W dropping across the BD135 during the inrush moment.

Kai

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inrush current + suitable voltage sour            01/01/70 00:00      
   Inrush current of lamp            01/01/70 00:00      
      Current inrush            01/01/70 00:00      
         NTC?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Soft-start            01/01/70 00:00      
               8 reed SW parallely + 21.12A / at 12VDC            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Car battery???            01/01/70 00:00      
                  inrush current            01/01/70 00:00      
                  totally irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No testing needed, standardly            01/01/70 00:00      
                     replies            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Reply to "replies"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           the difference between "cheap" and "inex            01/01/70 00:00      
                           current limit resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              are you just grasping for straws?            01/01/70 00:00      
            NTC, yes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Filaments            01/01/70 00:00      
                  In the days of radios for AC and DC            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
            resistor parallel to Switch!            01/01/70 00:00      
               MOSFET, constant current source?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not for my use            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ok, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but i think            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Relays            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes ofcourse            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 here we go again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Even more!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       werlcome to the club            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          why did you not say so?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          You made a fool of us!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That's no fun!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Suresh, I hope you had fun            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      yeah 6 days later.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hello Kai,            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Look at here            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Thank you very much Kai.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It just strikes me            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Reed switch problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Current rating?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I recall long ago something about a "sti            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Reed problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Glueing together            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Reed problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                reed relayrs            01/01/70 00:00      
                           power dissipation calculations?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              bulb voltage drop            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 (.2*bulb resistance            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    The bulb            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Constant current during inrush moment            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Thanks a lot Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
         Choke would be huge            01/01/70 00:00      

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