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09/06/11 22:17
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Responding to: ???'s previous message
I cannot believe that any USB devices would get very far. Likewise, any 32kB or 64kB chip is a bit pointless.
the SILabs 'crippled' uVision that comes with the devkits
a) has a 4k limit
b) some 'packages' (I believe USB is one of them) 'live' outside the 4k limit in the "SILabs world"

I suppose that the simple answer is to only use devices where the Manufacturers offer tools.
the choice is
a) stick with a proprietary architecture and be at the mercy of the manufacturer re availability. What would you do right now if the chip family your design used is discontinued
b) use a widespread architecture ('51, ARM) pay for the tools and be (relatively) chip manufacturer independent. Also the likelyhood of finding a perfect fit to your app is far greater.

No manufacturer in his right mind would provide free unlimited tools for ARM or '51 they would be easily useable for the competitions products.

anyhow, if you want to use the '51 and not pay for the tools there is always SDCC

Erik

List of 53 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Linking C programs with Keil evaluation            01/01/70 00:00      
   Eval Tools.            01/01/70 00:00      
      That makes sense            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's not that much more useable            01/01/70 00:00      
            Work-around for evaluation version limitations?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Marked -1            01/01/70 00:00      
               I'm not so sure you're right here ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Irrelevant if people have ideas - should they be debated?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     There's a reason I haven't done it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Would not represent a valid evaluation            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Wait a minute ... You've got this wrong ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     One question            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What about the guy who simply wants to evaluate the product?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sometimes coding situations and requirements differ            01/01/70 00:00      
                        How would you like it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's not what I'm asking them to do            01/01/70 00:00      
                              A message from the OP.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I don't supply the compiler ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Wrong view on evaluation tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                           as I've said before, where you sit determines what you see            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Still failing to recognize reason for hole in code map            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You missed my point again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Simulate or use Logic Analyser            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       ramblings            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Using evaluation software and hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The above would be true if....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You don't seriously believe that, do you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                A thief is a thief            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Indeed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   FIrst of all, I don't advocate theivery            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      and more mumbo jumbo in the reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Can _you_ not read debugger output?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          8255            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Yes, but they're still shipped on some 805x trainer boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Just sayin'            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Square Wheels for the Car            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I disagree ... not that that should surprise anyone            01/01/70 00:00      
                        eval and evaluation            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, if only they were useful ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Also "LPC900 Studio"            01/01/70 00:00      
         They all seem crippled            01/01/70 00:00      
            comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            They all seem crippled            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes ... SDCC ... the obvious solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what's obvious about it            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Unfortunately            01/01/70 00:00      
                              re Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 15 years ago?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    OK, maybe not            01/01/70 00:00      
            reasonable price            01/01/70 00:00      
            raisonance is 4k with no code offset            01/01/70 00:00      

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