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07/23/11 14:01
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 		 #183003 - Since we are being pedantic
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
ISP Programmer

there is no such thing, you either do ISP or use a programmer.

Erik



What would you call the 'hardware box' that provides a connection to the PC and connects to the SPI interface on your pcb?

Likewise a JLINK or ULINK device?

Ok, so you can say "Device that can perform ISP on Atmel AT89Sxx chips"
Do you have to list some 100s of chip device numbers?

How would describe those multi-function HVPP programmers?
They often have multiple interfaces to connect to ISP capable chips.

In my opinion, the distinction is "does the punter require some special hardware to perform ISP?"
A USB cable is available in her local WalMart"
A JTAG i/f or SPI i/f is special hardware not available in WalMart.

I will continue to call this special hardware a "Programmer"

The punter really just wants a shopping list, not a pedantic argument.

David.

List of 40 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
ISP Programmer / Good for both 8051 and 8052?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Never assume            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   Programmer for Atmel 8051 microcontrollers            01/01/70 00:00      
   Do only buy the ATMEL's original AT89ISP programmer cable!            01/01/70 00:00      
      I disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
         You expect...            01/01/70 00:00      
   WHY?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Have you been on holiday with Richard?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Those are the conventional meanings            01/01/70 00:00      
            This is getting silly.            01/01/70 00:00      
               I see - I think?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It looks as if the STC is a RS232 ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
         Clearly not, as Richard would never, Never, NEVER use ATMEL            01/01/70 00:00      
            different reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not necessarily ... though very possibly.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The Two from the retirement home...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Statler and Waldorf ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     would you be inclined to deal with ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        We all have these stories...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           not at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I have to agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Those are minor offenses by comparison.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exists?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Peeeeer...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now I understand the "Arghmel" thing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Have you ever told us this before?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I have never experienced such problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 It's not so much the problem, as the handling of it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Gee ... I thought it was just the French design team            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I do not            01/01/70 00:00      
            Advise, seniors, please..            01/01/70 00:00      
               Start a new thread!            01/01/70 00:00      
               re: advise            01/01/70 00:00      
               Have you considered FRAM?            01/01/70 00:00      
   there is no such thing            01/01/70 00:00      
      Since we are being pedantic            01/01/70 00:00      
         Programming adapter?            01/01/70 00:00      
         A distinction is necessary?            01/01/70 00:00      

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