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10/20/09 15:03
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#169905 - not so fast, Per ...
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The last five or six colleagues who've attempted to use BGA packaging for short-run (where they couldn't absorb several respins of the boards) products, have found that it requires, typically six reworks of the artwork PLUS x-ray inspection of each assembled board with the costly BGA's, and, at least with prototype houses here in the U.S, they get about a 1% yield, i.e. 10% of the finished PCB's will pass electrical test, and 10% of the assembled boards have successful attachment of the BGA's.

TQFP is generally the cheapest package that can be applied at reasonable cost, and, in fact, it's pretty easy if the boards have proper solder mask and the artwork has sensible component "footprints" in use. Some layout software packages, notably bEAGLE, have EVERY QFP/TQFP footprint WRONG! In the case of bEAGLE, the pads extend far enough below the package that solder can "float" the package such that it's difficult with just paste, to get proper attachment, and such that it's impossible to inspect the boards properly. I doubt bEAGLE is the only package that presents such a problem.

I've found that WINSLOW ADAPTICS doesn't want to sell some of their "standard" products, i.e. it's both quicker and less costly to make the equivalent yourself or to have it made and eBay the extras.

It's VERY easy to do a proper job of attaching TQFP/PQFP components. You don't even have to use paste. What you can to is take reasonable care soldering the component to the board by hand, opposing corners first, and subsequently "cleaning up" the solder bonds with solder-wick, which removes all the non-essential solder very well.

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Cost of micros            01/01/70 00:00      
   check out mouser.com , digikey.com farnell.com etc            01/01/70 00:00      
      checked out...            01/01/70 00:00      
         UK - beware!            01/01/70 00:00      
            UK-Specific: Digikey update            01/01/70 00:00      
   In the UK            01/01/70 00:00      
   Freebies!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Atmel representatives            01/01/70 00:00      
         RS components            01/01/70 00:00      
            surface mount TFQP packages            01/01/70 00:00      
               Dev Board            01/01/70 00:00      
                  One proviso            01/01/70 00:00      
            TQFP ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Lots of people solder BGA too            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not so fast, Per ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Note that link was about hobbyists            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's been tried ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Don't upgrade "possible" into "better than"...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That's worth a whole thread in itself - and a FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That wasn't my point, actually ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     re: bgas            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's all in what you prefer, I guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                           having once dealt with those U.S. houses            01/01/70 00:00      
                              No ... we've been using houses in the PRC            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ooops! - double post ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           jeebus            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If you have specifics, then name 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 names            01/01/70 00:00      
                  This looks good            01/01/70 00:00      
            QFP/TQFP SOCKETS?            01/01/70 00:00      
               QFP/TQFP SOCKETS - EXPENSIVE?!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Expensive yes but what is the requirement            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The requirement            01/01/70 00:00      
               Watch out for test sockets            01/01/70 00:00      
                  This applies to BGA's as well            01/01/70 00:00      
                     BGA soldering            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Welllll            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Specific local information            01/01/70 00:00      
            Err            01/01/70 00:00      
               Probably low correlation between vote and posts            01/01/70 00:00      
               Err??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Err??            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Pricing            01/01/70 00:00      
                        clickable            01/01/70 00:00      
                           no, but ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                     how hard would this be?            01/01/70 00:00      
   depends in task            01/01/70 00:00      
      Task defined here            01/01/70 00:00      

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