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10/17/08 08:17
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 		 #159138 - assumption < implication
Responding to: ???'s previous message
An implication is a hard mathematical term. It is an absolute truth.

An assumption on the other hand is a soft convention. A "may be". "Conventional use" implies an assumption, since conventional use is not an absolute fact.

This is law:
EEPROM implies EPROM.
EEPROM implies electrically eraseable.

This is convention:
EPROM may be UV-eraseable

So, when someone uses the term EPROM about an EEPROM, you may warn about possible confusion because of peoples assumptions. But the use is not (never!) wrong.

If someone uses the term EEPROM about a memory that is not electrically eraseable, then it is an incorrect reversal of an implication arrow and directly wrong.

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MOVX doesn't work for writing.            01/01/70 00:00      
   It's a read-only memory            01/01/70 00:00      
      EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
         RAM-EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
            That wouldn't be an EEPROM.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Look at Ferro-electric memory            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not wrong.            01/01/70 00:00      
            An EEPROM is an EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
               Technically, but not in common usage of the term.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Common use != Definition            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not quite ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No, it's not            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A datasheet that actually calls it a "UVEPROM"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OK ... I stand corrected ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        A link with EPROM <= EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not that generic!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Magnetic core memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                           it is SERIAL EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
                              UVEPROM?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I think a part number would be the solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Symmetric speed too.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ta paidia paizei !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
            EEPROM implies EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
               Today, it's the other way round.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  assumption < implication            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You missed the point!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     As one of my old tutors used to say...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Let's not confuse things further            01/01/70 00:00      
            You have also missed the point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Or...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some Kind Like....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Non-Volatile Memory            01/01/70 00:00      
         or maybe the AT28C64B will work            01/01/70 00:00      
      You mean you want an NVRAM?            01/01/70 00:00      
   write eeprom            01/01/70 00:00      
      that may not be the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
         EPROM has special write-procedures            01/01/70 00:00      
   Check the write waveform timings!!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      How?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Source code to simulate MOVX...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Start with the datasheet ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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