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01/18/13 04:55
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#189256 - He doesn't have to apply external memory
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I hope you recall that he initially mentioned that DS89C430 that he's using in his class. That has on-chip serially programmable FLASH program memory and 1 kByts of on-chip XRAM, in addition to the standard 8052 features and a bunch of additonal non-standard ones. With an oscillator, a MAX232A, and any one of the chips from that family, he'll have all he needs to create simple programs.

While I don't consider attaching external memory particularly difficult, I do agree that it's going to provide considerably more risk of error. However, if he's determined to use that ROMless part, an external nonvolatile memory is a reasonable thing to consider.

I totally agree with you, that he should start SIMPLE but learning to use JTAG is probably no easier than learning to use a monitor. Since he's determined to use those DIL-40 packaged parts (even if he uses 'em in PLCC) there'll be no JTAG option.

It will be a bit cheaper, though, to use a DS89C450 sample, a packaged oscillator (rather than a crystal, so he can't miswire or otherwise commit error on the oscillator), and a MAX232A will let him start SIMPLE than by buying SiLabs hardware and learning to operate it, and to operate the JTAG tool set.

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Regarding Typical memory connection for a ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
   drop it!            01/01/70 00:00      
   same question - same answers            01/01/70 00:00      
   It won't work            01/01/70 00:00      
      Andy Neil's previous message            01/01/70 00:00      
         little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
            little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
               Erik doesn't like it when you don't do what he wants            01/01/70 00:00      
                  KISS            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I find it odd that you            01/01/70 00:00      
                           just to add            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If you really want to use ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not necessary ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What about the other option?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              So your development cycle will be...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What about that other post?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              reply to all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 'something'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    "something" reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Some links to reduce work             01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I'm not surprised ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                    down memory lane            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Antique chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          in my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Just where, under the hood, can you look?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                this applies equally well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Did he say he wants apples?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Highly integrated devices deprive one of valuable experience            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the only difference ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                          a monitor can not             01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I don't think anyone's that foolish ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I do            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   He doesn't have to apply external memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      by your posts he does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You have to consider ALL his posts            01/01/70 00:00      
            The bible links            01/01/70 00:00      
               you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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